Isn't there some sort of chemical reaction, science thing, where hot water freezes faster than cold or just cool water? I wanted to run the hot water hose to the barn, and my husband said it was a waste of time because water will freeze faster if you start with hot. So our water is cool and gets cold, but does take a while to freeze up. A rubber mallet is pretty good for loosening the ice build up on sides and bottom. We use the Fortiflex buckets, so it does all slip out when loosened. Rubber mallet has a bigger face for impact, and doesn't seem to crack thru the plastic like a metal hammer. Fortiflex does seem to take the abuse best of all the plastics and blue is the toughest color. Not sure why, but black Fortiflex are the worst of the colors. Only got two winters out of black, while some of the blue are over 10 years old. Green and bright pink also are pretty tough. Haven't used any of the other colors. The rubbery black Fortex just don't make it easy when the ice grabs the string fibers!!! What a job to clean the ice out of those. No patience when I get really cold. I use my old Fortex buckets for storing stuff now. Heated bucket for the dog can't take the wind. Still freezes, so we water her in the house. Cats have to drink quickly, because their dish freezes pretty fast. No snow cover here, is driving the cold down. Outside pipes are freezing in the ground. Any pipes running under a road or driven over, better be pretty deep! Frost free hydrants better be about 8ft down and protected too! I have noticed how MUCH thirstier horses are if they see you have to carry water to them!! The five gallon horse immediatly needs 10 gallons and it multiplies geometrically from there! Kathy Robertson > The water will probably not be HOT at once....since > it is drawing from the > bottom of the tank...in fact ours refills so that > the water going out the hose > stays cool...at his point we are still in testing. > > Yes, we have a frost-free hydrant...but it's not. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````