Hello Gerard and Eric, Gerard before we went further Eric was to contact Russel and Roger the main contributors for software development here. I thought that this message would have come through quite clearly. (Eric would you ascertain and post to this group what is developing in that respect please). This morning I noticed you were on the Nanogroup suggesting cooperation with them already without any input from Russel Roger or Eric. It would be appreciated that you contribute your own time to both or either groups, but how about giving the originators of this group a chance to discuss this initiative first? Sorry for being so blunt, but the original idea I mooted was with due respect to all concerned and you seem to have lost the plot there. Alistair George+