Hi Raymond, Yes I do use the sounds in the cakewalk tts-1, because I haven't any better. I'm hoping to find a better gm compatible soft synth, but I haven't come across one so far, except this tts-1 thing. I never use the helicopter or bubble sounds. I think they're useless. I'd rather see these patch numbers filled with useful instruments. If I want a helicopter or any other similar effect, I would go for a sample library with sound effects. Hope that answers your question. Regards, Paul. ----- Original Message ----- From: Raymond To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:42 PM Subject: [ddots-l] synthesizers Hi everyone. I got Sonar working because my stepdad called Gord and we got it straight. I just wanted a few opinions on something. Does anyone like the synthesizer that comes with Sonar 4? I'm starting to like it. I was also wondering if anyone uses the helicopter, stream, bubbles etc. If someone thinks I'm completely off balance, just let me know and I'll recheck things. Okay I guess I didn't want help, I just wanted to find out what people use those sounds for and if they use them at all.