thats the problem phil. i removed all traces of the hotspot sets. i uninstalled ct. i uninstalled hotspotclicker. i completely removed jaws. i completely deleted everything related to jaws on the drive. also i redownloaded the hsc sets from the hotspot page. then i reinstalled everything and then i inserted the downloaded hsc sets in to the sonarprd folder. so no traces of my hsc sets anymore. and the problem still comes up. I use sonar in 32 bit mode. i tried installing hsc as 32 bit and 64 bit. do you think i could try installing a previous version of hotspot clicker? if you think that might help do you still have previous versions i could try? kind regards PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq