Have faith, Neville. Almost exactly a year ago, the "Inclusion through Music 2007" conference at the Royal College of Music in London, laid down significant accessibility foundations with a number of developers and manufacturers of music products. Speaking as a Dancing Dots dealer here in the U.K., I can tell you that the last 10 years or so has been a major uphill struggle. However this year we have seen a significant increase in the number of students going to college and university to study music. Many of these are students developed their talents at school with the aid of GOODFEEL, Caketalking and Sibelius Speaking. It is also apparent that an increasing number of school districts over here are making decisions to purchase district licenses based on whether or not the product can be accessed by their blind and partially sighted pupils. That has got a growing number of companies feeling the proverbial pinch and looking at the accessible side of their products. No names, no pack drill, but I do know some members of this list who are assisting companies develop accessible products. So hang in there. I'm confident you will see some exciting developments in the next year. George Bell. ________________________________ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neville Peter Sent: 29 October 2008 21:29 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: full info on the Cakewalk Vstudio 700 from harmony central Roland has never been friendly to the blind. God bless you! WEBSite www.nevillepeter.com Email neville@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Phone 407-222-4488 Would you like to get great deals and instant rebates while making real good money at the same time? Click hear now! http://www.mypowermall.com/Biz/Home/152480 ________________________________ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Muir Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:59 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: full info on the Cakewalk Vstudio 700 from harmony central I here ya. On the other hand, I note that in order to control the gains on this control surface, you have to do that from a software dialog box. Not sure if that will be accessible either. If this has been developed by Roland, and they have implemented this in a similar way to V-Vocal then accessibility to put it mildly could be well, interesting. Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions, Music And Audio Production Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK+44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxx URL: www.philmuir.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Damon Fibraio <mailto:dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:48 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: full info on the Cakewalk Vstudio 700 from harmony central It's possible, but it seems like it is a glorified control surface and audio interface for sonar. The only mention of displays refer to a seven segment led for now time and a 2 line 13 character display for markers and whatnot, but it runs off good old sonar. If I had $4000, I'd wait until cT for sonar 8 came out and take a chance as this seems like it would work well, but then again, I don't, so I'm waiting anyway. <grin> -- Damon Fibraio screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxxx skype: dfibraio personal music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com. Band web site: http://www.thdband.com, myspace http://www.myspace.com/thdtheband Internet Radio station: http://www.nhbradio.com Internet radio show Wednesday nights from 8 to 11 pm eastern From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Muir Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:25 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: full info on the Cakewalk Vstudio 700 from harmony central Damon wrote: snip, I read up on this thing and I am floored. And since it works around sonar 8 producer, bundles rapture with sonar 8's dimension pro and even includes a Roland fantom equivalent synth onboard, would guess that this will be quite accessible. Phil replied: I wouldn't count on it. Neither Tim Burgess or others interested in accessibility have taken a look at it yet and so are not in a position to comment. My advice, don't spend any money until some of us have had a chance to try it out. For all we know, this thing could have wraparound menus, lots of multipurpose menus etc. Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions, Music And Audio Production Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK+44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxx URL: www.philmuir.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Damon Fibraio <mailto:dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: midimag@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:23 PM Subject: [ddots-l] full info on the Cakewalk Vstudio 700 from harmony central The below link takes you to the press release for the cakewalk/roland v-studio 700, the control surface, audio interface and software that cakewalk is touting s the next big solution for musicians. I read up on this thing and I am floored. And since it works around sonar 8 producer, bundles rapture with sonar 8's dimension pro and even includes a Roland fantom equivalent synth onboard, would guess that this will be quite accessible. The price tag, at $4000 hurts, but I wonder if this would convince me to upgrade from my fw1884 since the hardware and software are integrated. Anyway, here's the info as per the press release... http://aes.harmony-central.com/125AES/Content/Cakewalk/PR/Cakewalk-SON AR-V-Studio-700.html -- Damon Fibraio screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxxx skype: dfibraio personal music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com. Band web site: http://www.thdband.com, myspace http://www.myspace.com/thdtheband Internet Radio station: http://www.nhbradio.com Internet radio show Wednesday nights from 8 to 11 pm eastern __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3566 (20081029) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3566 (20081029) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com