[ddots-l] Re: ddots-l Digest V8 #102

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ddots-l Digest Thu, 07 Apr 2011 Volume: 08  Issue: 102

In This Issue:
[ddots-l] Re: new member
[ddots-l] Re: Missing Plug-ins in Sonar X64?
[ddots-l] Re: Missing Plug-ins in Sonar X64?
[ddots-l] Re: Missing Plug-ins in Sonar X64?
[ddots-l] Control serfices
[ddots-l] Guitar Synth Question
[ddots-l] Re: new computer and DAW blues!
[ddots-l] Re: Guitar Synth Question
[ddots-l] Vocal pitch correction plug/ins
[ddots-l] Re: Missing Plug-ins in Sonar X64?
[ddots-l] Re: Guitar Synth Question
[ddots-l] Re: Missing Plug-ins in Sonar X64?

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From: "Phil Muir" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: new member
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 08:39:26 +0100

Welcome George!



Regards, Phil Muir
Accessibility Training
Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
UK +44-1747-821-794
Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
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Sent: 06 April 2011 20:03
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Subject: [ddots-l] new member


Hi everyone,

My name is George and I'm a new list member, living in NYC. Just wanted to say hay. When I get smart enough to ask a question, I'll probably say more.

g
At 01:58 PM 4/6/2011, you wrote:


Don't even get me going on UPS.

I bought a Roland gr 33 guitar synth on eBay 2 weeks ago. On the day it was

supposed to be delivered, it was lost.  After 3 days the seller gave me a
refund, and it turns out that UPS had routed the package back to him.

I then ordered a used gr 33 from guitar center.  That one was damaged.

So here I go again ordering my 3rd gr 33 in 2 weeks.  On the day it was

being dropped off, the UPS guy didn't knock or ring the bell. He just left a slip on the door. I went down to pick it up, got it and ran to the car to

open the box.  This time it was guitar center's bad, in the box I found a
Roland gr 20, not a 33.

I'm starting to think its not in the cards for me to have one of these
things...

Shawn Brock

----- Original Message -----

From: Greg Brayton <mailto:Greg@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:35 AM

Subject: [ddots-l] Re: UPS info



Gosh how can you over pack something?

----- Original Message -----

From: Greg Brayton <mailto:Greg@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 1:29 PM

Subject: [ddots-l] UPS info



They said they over packed it,

tracking number

1zra09964216248358

UPS store

352 south willow brook Coldwater MI 49036

517-279-9080

Dan, said they double packed and extra buble wrap around the corners, and
can't imagine how hard they had to drop it to break something.

Bad news!!




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From: "Phil Muir" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Missing Plug-ins in Sonar X64?
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 08:54:33 +0100

Chris, when you installed Wave Arts, did you install the Power Suite 5 64

bit plug-ins? If not then, it's possible that they may not show up. Having

said that, BitBrridge, should pick all of them up.  BTW, I have installed

the Power Suite 32 bit plug-ins for use in Sonar 32 bit, and the 64 bit ones

for SonarX64 and that's all working out great.  Hmm, just had another
thought.  Are your 32 bit plug-ins installed somewhere in the

Program Files (x86)

Folder?  My guess is that they will be because, that's usually where you

would find them. That would also explain why they are not showing up as you

won't have included any folder that contains 32 bit plug-ins in the .VST

scan. For example, if you have the 32 bit version of Sonar installed then,

you would find them in the:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Cakewalk\Vstplugins

Folder.  Yet another good reason to install 32 bit Sonar along side as you

can then, simply add the 32 bit .VST folder to the scan. If you can locate the 32 bit .VST folder then, you will be able to add that as a folder in the .VST tab in options. If you then do a .VST scan again then, everything that

is .VST at least, will show up.   Mind you, nun of your 32 bit Waves or,
Wave Arts DXi plug-ins will ever show up in SonarX64 as they are only

compatible with 32 bit Sonar. I always use .VST now a days as I don't want

to have to think about what may or, may not work.  If I wanted to use DXi

then, I would have to find 64 bit DXi compatible installers for the plug-ins

in question.

Regards, Phil Muir
Accessibility Training
Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
UK +44-1747-821-794
Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
E-mail:
info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
URL:
http://www.accessibilitytraining.co.uk/


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Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 11:08:32 -0400
From: Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Missing Plug-ins in Sonar X64?

Thanks Phil. I'll check into that, especially the Wave Arts
installers.
Shouldn't the VST versions of the Waves plug-ins still show up in
Sonar 64?  I did find the right folder containing them and added it
to the search list.
In fact, I have four folders in that list now, just to be sure I
have everything covered.

I'm going to check the Cakewalk Forums too.

Chris


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From: "Phil Muir" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Missing Plug-ins in Sonar X64?
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 16:40:10 +0100

They should if you have the correct folders in the list.




Regards, Phil Muir
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UK +44-1747-821-794
Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
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Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: 07 April 2011 16:09
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Missing Plug-ins in Sonar X64?

Thanks Phil. I'll check into that, especially the Wave Arts installers.

Shouldn't the VST versions of the Waves plug-ins still show up in Sonar 64? I did find the right folder containing them and added it to the search list.

In fact, I have four folders in that list now, just to be sure I have
everything covered.

I'm going to check the Cakewalk Forums too.

Chris

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From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Control serfices
Date: Thu,  7 Apr 2011 18:06:14 +0200

Hi has anyone tryed or used the mackie control universal pro? By the discription and specs it looks very accessible, don't think it has complicated settings and menus. A lot of the high end controlers has touch screens, endless menus and settings. This one looks straight forward, plug and play.

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From: rjc@xxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Guitar Synth Question
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 12:15:36 -0400

From this message, I see there are a few git synth players out there. Just a

couple questions..

1. Has your experience been that they work better on acoustic rather than
electric guitars?  I did read something about that a few years ago.
Something about nylon strings too - maybe the pickups have more isolation
per string than magnetic pickups which would be used on steel or electric?

2. Can you play chords and fast licks on these newer synths like the axon
with the correct guitar / setup?  I had the Roland gr10 (about ten years
ago), and have played the gr30 in a store about 3 years ago and remain

unimpressed. Seemed like I still needed to watch how and what I played, and

chords were still kinda weirdly interpreted.  The gr30 I tried was being
driven via a strat-like electric guitar, so I'm thinking the nylon might
give superior tracking.

3. Any idea on where I could try an axon? I've never seen one in a store.

Thanx for any info...


-- Rich

-----Original Message----- From: Shawn Brock

Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:27 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: UPS info

You can't beat the Godin stuff.

I use the Multiac nylon stuff on gigs and to drive the Roland.  For
recording I go mostly unplugged, but I use the Godin for the rare plugged
tune I record on nylon.  I have a "cost deal".  Going to get one of the La
Patrie guitars soon for acoustic recording.

I was asked if I would be interested in a deal with Carvin, they also make a lot of guitars with synth access. The NS1, (nylon synth guitar), is just a

clear rip-off of the Godin.  Carvin has some features which I like better.
They offer knobs as aposed to sliders, and the knobs are stacked, (guitar

volume on bottom, synth volume on top). Plus the knobs are below the bridge

in more of a standard electric guitar fashion.  They also offer a lot of
color and neck options, and the Graph-Tech, ( spelling?) pickups.  The
Graph-Tech stuff is a little better in my opinion, but its still a Carvin.
The body isn't chambered at all, and it just feels like an electric guitar
that was hotrodded to me.

I'm past taking stuff just because its free.  Plus, no one wants to give

away free stuff anymore. I would rather just play what I like to play, even

if it costs me money.  I have never gotten a free instrument which I
liked...

The Axon products are better than Roland in a lot of ways.  I just don't
like the fact that you have to rack mount them, and you have to pay extra

for the expression peddles. I like that the Roland is all in one box. Like

I said though, Axon is better.

I use line6 amps, and they are good for what they are. That don't mean they are as good as a Fender twin or a Marshall Stack, but they bring both worlds

together somewhat for a lot less money...

Shawn Brock

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>

To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:30 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: UPS info

I also use a guitar synth, an Axon AX100 MK2. It works great with the
built-in pickup in my Godin LGXsa.
Chris

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From: D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: new computer and DAW blues!
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 14:46:22 -0400

Just did.

D!J!X!


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Behalf Of bob Reid
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:22 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: new computer and DAW blues!


Hi D!J!X!  Please contact me off-list at info@xxxxxxxxxx if you are still
interested in helping me out.
Bob.

From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 2:27 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: new computer and DAW blues!

Sounds good, hope it all gets sorted out,  these things can be frustrating
at times...

D!J!X!


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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 1:02 PM
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Thank you very much!  I'm going to let my local dealer try first on
Wednesday morning.  If that doesn't work, I will definitely ask for your
assistance.  I'll leave everything alone until then.
Bob.

From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 12:16 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: new computer and DAW blues!

Well if you have skype and jaws tandom capabilities, I can definitely help

in this area, work on geting sonar up and running, and also on optimizing
your system to make it  a better daw. If you're interested let me know!

D!J!X!


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Behalf Of bob Reid
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 11:48 AM
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: new computer and DAW blues!


Hi D.J.X.  Sorry, I really don't have a clue.  I went from using an analog
4-track recorder for home demos to Sonar back in 2006.  Although I

understand Sonar and the basics of Windows, I have not yet learned about the

guts of a PC although I probably should in the near future.  What I will
probably do is locate an expert on Sonar and Del systems near me to make a
house call, rip the system to pieces and start over.
Bob.

From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:51 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: new computer and DAW blues!

OK, a few questions, a bit technical, but necessary to help you
troubleshoot:
I'd imagine that your daw is using the x58 chipset?
If not, is it using p55? (do you know?) (I hope they're not using anything
in the h series).
Do you know exactly what processor, 800 series or 900? (This helps figure
your possible board chipset.)

Do you know what motherboard brand dell has put in your system? (They don't

always manufacturer them, they just brand them with the dell name but
they're really made by a third party board manufacturer.)
What firewire chipset are you using?
Have you tried using legacy firewire drivers for your card instead of the
standard windows 7 one? (Focusrite hasn't fully developed firewire drivers
to work with the new windows7 firewire drivers on x64 systems.)
Depending on what info you can give me I can perhaps help you better. If

you'd like, feel free to write me privately at djx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, as to not clutter the list with useless technical chatter on this part of the thread.

Regards, D!J!X!

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Behalf Of bob Reid
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 9:52 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] new computer and DAW blues!

Hi. I don't have a specific question at this time. I just want to rant for

a moment.

   Del Optiplex, I7 processor with several cores, 8 gigs of ram, Windows 7

Pro 64, new Focusrite Saffire 14 with Phil's working hot spots, Sonar 8.5.3

with Cake Talking patched all the way up to the latest and I still get
errors, latency problems with soft synthes and over all slow performance.
WTF?  I have spent more time mucking with this new system than I have
enjoying it.  At least the new sound card/rack mount sounds great through

the stereo. Things may improve once I figure out how the route channels and

mixes with the hot spots.  I truly appreciate all the work that so many

people have done to make Sonar 64 and Cake Talking the best that it can be.

I must be doing something wrong in Windows 7, Saffire Mix Control or
somewhere else.

   Any ideas are welcome.
Bob.
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From: "Shawn Brock" <shawn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Guitar Synth Question
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 12:16:49 -0700

Hey Rich,

I'll throw my thoughts out there.

I started on the GR 1, and the external pickup that it used at that time.
Now keep in mind, I can only speak about the GR 1, Gr 33 and GR 20, those
are the ones which I have the most experience with.

I haven't found that the synths track better on acoustic guitar. But I must

admit that I'm not the biggest fan of the external Roland pickups.  Now
having said that, I think the external pickups are worlds better than they

were. Not quite as good as having a pickup built into the guitar, but they

are tracking a lot better now than before.

Here are the 2 biggest problems with guitar players and synths that I see.

1: Setting the sensitivity

It seems like most guys always forget to set the sensitivity of the synth to their playing style and guitar. This is also the problem with trying out a

guitar synth in a store.  To really tell anything about it, you would have
to set the sensitivity of the guitar before trying to play on it.  I have

most of my strings setting from 5 to 7, depending on which guitar I'm using.

If a guitar has the internal pickup and the sensitivity is set to 10, it
becomes a huge mess.  Every slight pull off will trigger a note or 2, or
even 3.  It can be hard for us blind folks to go through the menus to set
the sensitivity, but that's the only way you can truly tell anything.

Problem 2, trying to play a guitar synth like a guitar.

Most guys plug in and at once start shredding.  They pay no mind to how a
sax player would play.  They just start playing AC-DC on a sax patch, or

organ patch. To play guitar synth does take some practice, and I'll be the

first to say that.

So if you are asking do you have to adapt your playing style, the answer is

yes.  Do the newer synths track better than the old days, heck yeah!

I have no trouble with having the synth pick up chords or anything like

that. This is only because I set up the sensitivity though. Before setting

it, each chord was a mess!

I could have bought a used GR 30 for $150, but didn't take it. For my money

you can't go wrong with the GR 33, or perhaps the new GR 55.

As for where you can try out Axon stuff, I have no clue.  I did a lot of
looking around, and I have never seen one in a store in the US.

Best,
Shawn Brock

----- Original Message ----- From: <rjc@xxxxxxx>

To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:15 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Guitar Synth Question

From this message, I see there are a few git synth players out there. Just

a couple questions..

1. Has your experience been that they work better on acoustic rather than
electric guitars?  I did read something about that a few years ago.
Something about nylon strings too - maybe the pickups have more isolation

per string than magnetic pickups which would be used on steel or electric?

2. Can you play chords and fast licks on these newer synths like the axon
with the correct guitar / setup?  I had the Roland gr10 (about ten years
ago), and have played the gr30 in a store about 3 years ago and remain
unimpressed. Seemed like I still needed to watch how and what I played,
and chords were still kinda weirdly interpreted.  The gr30 I tried was
being driven via a strat-like electric guitar, so I'm thinking the nylon
might give superior tracking.

3. Any idea on where I could try an axon? I've never seen one in a store.

Thanx for any info...


-- Rich

-----Original Message----- From: Shawn Brock

Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:27 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: UPS info

You can't beat the Godin stuff.

I use the Multiac nylon stuff on gigs and to drive the Roland.  For
recording I go mostly unplugged, but I use the Godin for the rare plugged

tune I record on nylon. I have a "cost deal". Going to get one of the La

Patrie guitars soon for acoustic recording.

I was asked if I would be interested in a deal with Carvin, they also make

a
lot of guitars with synth access.  The NS1, (nylon synth guitar), is just
a

clear rip-off of the Godin. Carvin has some features which I like better.

They offer knobs as aposed to sliders, and the knobs are stacked, (guitar
volume on bottom, synth volume on top).  Plus the knobs are below the
bridge
in more of a standard electric guitar fashion.  They also offer a lot of
color and neck options, and the Graph-Tech, ( spelling?) pickups.  The

Graph-Tech stuff is a little better in my opinion, but its still a Carvin. The body isn't chambered at all, and it just feels like an electric guitar

that was hotrodded to me.

I'm past taking stuff just because its free.  Plus, no one wants to give
away free stuff anymore.  I would rather just play what I like to play,
even
if it costs me money.  I have never gotten a free instrument which I
liked...

The Axon products are better than Roland in a lot of ways.  I just don't
like the fact that you have to rack mount them, and you have to pay extra
for the expression peddles.  I like that the Roland is all in one box.
Like
I said though, Axon is better.

I use line6 amps, and they are good for what they are.  That don't mean
they
are as good as a Fender twin or a Marshall Stack, but they bring both
worlds
together somewhat for a lot less money...

Shawn Brock

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>

To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:30 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: UPS info

I also use a guitar synth, an Axon AX100 MK2. It works great with the
built-in pickup in my Godin LGXsa.
Chris

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From: Rui Vilarinho <ruialby@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Vocal pitch correction plug/ins
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 20:32:45 +0100

Hi everyone

I confess that I'm not famous by my wonderful singing! But, maybe there's a chance of improved! Since I'm using the V Vocal Sonar plug-in.

But, I'm trying to find a tutorial for the Auto Tune plug-in. Version 5.

I can choose Soprano or others. I can choose the key and even the scale type. And vibrato.

Anyone can say if it's more accessible than this?



And What about the Mellodyne plug-in? anyone is using this one?



Or, another suggestion!.



Thanks

Rui Vilarinho


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From: "bob Reid" <info@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Missing Plug-ins in Sonar X64?
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 15:44:34 -0400

Hi Chris. Yow's the rest of the program running? Are all the Cakewalk soft

synthes working properly?
Bob.

-----Original Message----- From: Chris Smart

Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 11:08 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Missing Plug-ins in Sonar X64?

Thanks Phil. I'll check into that, especially the Wave Arts
installers.
Shouldn't the VST versions of the Waves plug-ins still show up in
Sonar 64?  I did find the right folder containing them and added it
to the search list.
In fact, I have four folders in that list now, just to be sure I
have everything covered.

I'm going to check the Cakewalk Forums too.

Chris

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From: rjc@xxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Guitar Synth Question
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 16:04:01 -0400

Thanx Sean, this is very helpful.
I'm gunna look around for that gr55 and at least give it a try in a store.
Later...
-- Rich

-----Original Message----- From: Shawn Brock

Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:16 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Guitar Synth Question

Hey Rich,

I'll throw my thoughts out there.

I started on the GR 1, and the external pickup that it used at that time.
Now keep in mind, I can only speak about the GR 1, Gr 33 and GR 20, those
are the ones which I have the most experience with.

I haven't found that the synths track better on acoustic guitar. But I must

admit that I'm not the biggest fan of the external Roland pickups.  Now
having said that, I think the external pickups are worlds better than they

were. Not quite as good as having a pickup built into the guitar, but they

are tracking a lot better now than before.

Here are the 2 biggest problems with guitar players and synths that I see.

1: Setting the sensitivity

It seems like most guys always forget to set the sensitivity of the synth to their playing style and guitar. This is also the problem with trying out a

guitar synth in a store.  To really tell anything about it, you would have
to set the sensitivity of the guitar before trying to play on it.  I have

most of my strings setting from 5 to 7, depending on which guitar I'm using.

If a guitar has the internal pickup and the sensitivity is set to 10, it
becomes a huge mess.  Every slight pull off will trigger a note or 2, or
even 3.  It can be hard for us blind folks to go through the menus to set
the sensitivity, but that's the only way you can truly tell anything.

Problem 2, trying to play a guitar synth like a guitar.

Most guys plug in and at once start shredding.  They pay no mind to how a
sax player would play.  They just start playing AC-DC on a sax patch, or

organ patch. To play guitar synth does take some practice, and I'll be the

first to say that.

So if you are asking do you have to adapt your playing style, the answer is

yes.  Do the newer synths track better than the old days, heck yeah!

I have no trouble with having the synth pick up chords or anything like

that. This is only because I set up the sensitivity though. Before setting

it, each chord was a mess!

I could have bought a used GR 30 for $150, but didn't take it. For my money

you can't go wrong with the GR 33, or perhaps the new GR 55.

As for where you can try out Axon stuff, I have no clue.  I did a lot of
looking around, and I have never seen one in a store in the US.

Best,
Shawn Brock

----- Original Message ----- From: <rjc@xxxxxxx>

To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:15 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Guitar Synth Question

From this message, I see there are a few git synth players out there. Just

a couple questions..

1. Has your experience been that they work better on acoustic rather than
electric guitars?  I did read something about that a few years ago.
Something about nylon strings too - maybe the pickups have more isolation

per string than magnetic pickups which would be used on steel or electric?

2. Can you play chords and fast licks on these newer synths like the axon
with the correct guitar / setup?  I had the Roland gr10 (about ten years
ago), and have played the gr30 in a store about 3 years ago and remain
unimpressed. Seemed like I still needed to watch how and what I played,
and chords were still kinda weirdly interpreted.  The gr30 I tried was
being driven via a strat-like electric guitar, so I'm thinking the nylon
might give superior tracking.

3. Any idea on where I could try an axon? I've never seen one in a store.

Thanx for any info...


-- Rich

-----Original Message----- From: Shawn Brock

Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:27 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: UPS info

You can't beat the Godin stuff.

I use the Multiac nylon stuff on gigs and to drive the Roland.  For
recording I go mostly unplugged, but I use the Godin for the rare plugged

tune I record on nylon. I have a "cost deal". Going to get one of the La

Patrie guitars soon for acoustic recording.

I was asked if I would be interested in a deal with Carvin, they also make

a
lot of guitars with synth access.  The NS1, (nylon synth guitar), is just
a

clear rip-off of the Godin. Carvin has some features which I like better.

They offer knobs as aposed to sliders, and the knobs are stacked, (guitar
volume on bottom, synth volume on top).  Plus the knobs are below the
bridge
in more of a standard electric guitar fashion.  They also offer a lot of
color and neck options, and the Graph-Tech, ( spelling?) pickups.  The

Graph-Tech stuff is a little better in my opinion, but its still a Carvin. The body isn't chambered at all, and it just feels like an electric guitar

that was hotrodded to me.

I'm past taking stuff just because its free.  Plus, no one wants to give
away free stuff anymore.  I would rather just play what I like to play,
even
if it costs me money.  I have never gotten a free instrument which I
liked...

The Axon products are better than Roland in a lot of ways.  I just don't
like the fact that you have to rack mount them, and you have to pay extra
for the expression peddles.  I like that the Roland is all in one box.
Like
I said though, Axon is better.

I use line6 amps, and they are good for what they are.  That don't mean
they
are as good as a Fender twin or a Marshall Stack, but they bring both
worlds
together somewhat for a lot less money...

Shawn Brock

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>

To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:30 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: UPS info

I also use a guitar synth, an Axon AX100 MK2. It works great with the
built-in pickup in my Godin LGXsa.
Chris

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Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 16:17:42 -0400
From: Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Missing Plug-ins in Sonar X64?

Hi Bob.

I'm still having trouble with plug-ins. I haven't bothered with
soft synths, but I rarely do anything with midi so they won't be a
priority.

Chris


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