[ddots-l] Re: changing pitch on an audio track

  • From: Bryan Smart <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:34:35 -0500

Sound Forge's algorithms for time and pitch stretch are ancient when compared 
to the MPEX and Radius algorithms in Sonar. In Sonar, you can stretch or 
compress by over 50% without hearing hardly any artifacts. The pitch change can 
transpose entire segments of music by many semitones while preserving the 
formant, so the music doesn't sound like its just a sped up tape. If you're 
working with a solo instrument or voice, you can stretch time and shift pitch 
even further with great results.

For a destructive pitch change, you can actually use the transpose command in 
the process menu on an audio track, just like you would with MIDI.

Time stretching is best done by using audiosnap. Once you convert a basic audio 
clip in to an audiosnap clip, you can stretch the clip to a certain length, 
stretch the clip so that it finishes at a specific time in your project, cause 
it to automatically expand and collapse as you change the tempo of your 
project, and more. All of those changes are performed in real time, and are 
non-destructive, so you can edit the length and other settings as many times as 
you need to to make sure all is well before you export your project. Have a 
look at the CT tutorial. There is an entire section devoted to audiosnap.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of John Fioravanti
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 8:36 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: changing pitch on an audio track

I have used the pitch change in soundforge and it seems to work okay, although 
you can definitely hear a change. If I were to use this feature in Sonar, I 
assume I would use it after creating the audio track and before exporting it to 
a waive. Is this correct? By the way, I'm using sonar 6 producer.
John Fioravanti 

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Jörgen Hansson <mailto:hansson.jogge@xxxxxxxx>  
        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 5:09 AM
        Subject: [ddots-l] Re: changing pitch on an audio track

        Hi there, Luis and omar.
        I must tell you, I love that feature in sonar and I find it very good 
my self.
        I did some pitching for a client one night or better said, not a 
client, just a good friend of mine cause she wanted to sing some songs that was 
a little bit too high for her.
        so, I tested that function of the time stretch/pitch shifter in sonar, 
and it worked out really really good. and the vocals she sang was perfect for 
that song.
        Regards,
        Jörgen Hansson!
        Tel +46 703-601296
        www.jorgenhansson.com
        skype: djtropical4532

                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: luis elorza <mailto:luiselorza@xxxxxxxxx>  
                To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 1:56 AM
                Subject: [ddots-l] Re: changing pitch on an audio track

                i think 3 semitones up and down is acceptable. depends on the 
quality you need , if it is for a demo it's fine.
                it takes some time for processing so you can select a small 
fragment and process as a test and once you find the right setting you can 
process the whole song.
                ----- Original Message ----- 

                        From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>  
                        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 3:36 PM
                        Subject: [ddots-l] Re: changing pitch on an audio track

                        I've never used it before. Would I be able to change it 
to just about any scale I needed to?
                         
                         
                        Omar Binno
                         
                        Website: www.omarbinno.com
                        AIM: LOD1116
                        Skype: obinno1

                                ----- Original Message ----- 
                                From: luis elorza <mailto:luiselorza@xxxxxxxxx> 
 
                                To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                                Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 6:25 PM
                                Subject: [ddots-l] Re: changing pitch on an 
audio track

                                the time pitch stretch that comes with sonar 
works very good.
                                 

                                        ----- Original Message ----- 
                                        From: Omar Binno 
<mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>  
                                        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                                        Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 3:14 
PM
                                        Subject: [ddots-l] changing pitch on an 
audio track

                                        Hello,
                                         
                                        I may need to change the pitch/scale on 
an mp3 instrumental for a client to fit their vocal range. Do I have more 
options to achieve this in sonar or soundforge?
                                         
                                        Thanks.
                                         
                                         
                                        Omar Binno
                                         
                                        Website: www.omarbinno.com
                                        AIM: LOD1116
                                        Skype: obinno1


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