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- From: <ivanlopez@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 11:04:34 -0700
Hello Steve,
I am working on all your suggestions.
I am also using the below CT lesson on “Using the Synth Rack View.
One of the challenges I am experiencing is accessing the synth
properties page by pressing “P” within the synth rack view; your
instructions are correct; it is also stated in the below CT lesson.
The CT manual states: "There are 5 hotkeys that execute important synth
rack functions." One of these is: "The letter P. Opens the current Soft
Synth's Properties page."
As of now, it does look not very straight forward and it may cause a
delay (pun intended).
It looks like one of those things you look at for a while and than the
epiphany comes after you realize that you have not executed a step
correctly or something.
Many thanks for your assistance my friend.
Cheers!
Ivan
33G. Using the Synth Rack View.
1. All the soft synths that you insert are in a list in the Synth Rack
view. You can use the Synth Rack View to insert soft synths into the
track pane, open their properties pages, delete them from your project,
and also control there parameters, and even go into automation record
and adjust there parameters. If you decide to not use a soft synth that
you have inserted, you should delete the associated MIDI and audio
tracks, and then delete the soft synth from the Synth Rack view. If you
don't delete the soft synth from the Synth Rack view, it will continue
to tax your system with the overhead it takes to load the soft synth
into SONAR. This can sometimes take up a lot of computing power.
2. Sonar's new Synth rack has more capabilities than previous versions
of SONAR. In addition, it's more accessible than before. As before, each
soft synth that you've inserted, is displayed in the Synth rack. You can
down an up arrow through them. You can TAB and SHIFT TAB through the
Synth Rack Controls for the current synth, and also right and left arrow
through nobs that have been assigned to control the current soft
synth’s parameters.
3. You open the synth rack view with ALT + 8. You can also open it via
the View menu. And if you ever lose focus in the Synth Rack View, press
F6 to reset the focus. To close the synth rack view, press CONTROL + F4.
Now here's a list of the Synth Rack controls, and what they are for.
A. The Soft Synth's name. Press ENTER on it, and the soft synth's dialog
opens.
B. The Preset box. Press ENTER and a Menu of available presets opens,
from which you can pick.
C. The mute button. Press ENTER to mute or unmute the soft synth.
D. The solo button. Press ENTER to solo or unsolo the soft synth.
E. The Freeze/Unfreeze Synth button. Press ENTER to toggle.
E. Read Automation button. By default it's on. Press ENTER to
disable/enable reading of automation for all assigned controls.
F. Write Automation button. By default it's off. Press ENTER to
enable/disable writing of automation for all assigned controls.
G. The Show Assigned Controls button. This will toggle the display of
any controls that have been assigned. To assign controls, press the
Application key on this button. The Assignable Control menu will open.
You can display the controls that are listed in this menu by pressing
ENTER on them so that they get checked. Then in the Synth rack, the
controls you checked will be displayed as knobs. This is great because
many soft-synth dialogs are inaccessible, except for their preset combo
boxes.
H. The knobs. These are all the controls that you've assigned in the
form of knobs. Here's what you can do with them.
h1. To adjust them, num lock must be turned on. Then use num plus, and
num minus.
h2. If you wish to Write enable automation for just that control, then
press the application key, and from the context menu, check Write
Automation Enable. Note that for this to work, you don't hit the write
enable automation button, because that button write enables all
controls.
h3. If you wish to delete that assigned control, press the application
key, and from the context menu, press ENTER on Delete.
4. There are 5 hotkeys that execute important synth rack functions.
Mid Section Delete. Deletes the current soft synth.
The letter P. Opens the current Soft Synth's Properties page.
The letter O. Open the insert Soft Synth options dialog, where you can
choose options for what happens when you insert a soft synth.
The letter F. Open the Freeze Synth option menu.
------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re:_[ddots-l]_Re:_[ddots-l]_Re:_[ddots-l]_Re:_
> Re:_[ddots-l]_Re:_Re:_[ddots-l]_Configuring_
> soun_d_pat_ches_to_conform_t_o_Sonar’s_t empo
> From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, September 08, 2011 7:25 am
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> Hi Ivan,
>
> This maybe a thought, go to delay by first going to the synth rack like a
> explained in the last email.
> Now rather than go through all the delays, just arrow to off and press
> enter, as this synth delay will be a nightmare to synchronise to Sonar's
> tempo.
> Once the synth is dry, just select a sonitus delay as they are in sync with
> Sonar's tempo.
>
> Steve W
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "ddtots" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:13 PM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: [ddots-l] Re: [ddots-l] Re:
> Re:_[ddots-l]_Re:_Re:_[ddots-l]_Configuring_soun
> d_pat_ches_to_conform_t_o_Sonar’s_tempo
>
>
> > Hi Ivan,
> >
> > Ok, sorry about the delay, no pun intended.
> >
> > I'm going to explain as a Sonar 7 user, I imagine this should be similar
> > on
> > the later Sonar updates.
> >
> > 1: alt 8 for synth rack,
> > 2: arrow down to the synth you wish to make delay changes,
> > 3: press P to open the synth properties page,
> > 4: press F4,
> > 5: arrow down until you hear "delay control" and press enter,
> > 6: Jaws should say, "delay button for current element" press enter on
> > this,
> > 7: arrow down through all kinds of delay types and click on lets say
> > stereo
> > delay,
> > 8: you can tab through the parameters and change things like delay time,
> > delay repeats and so on.
> > 9: once you have the delay set how you want it to sound just press control
> > F4 to take you back to the synth rack...
> >
> > I know it's not as straight forward as rapture, however, I do like using
> > DSF
> > packages in dimension Pro because Cake Talking allows us more access to
> > the parameters
> > than most other soft synth products.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > To all on the list, if I've made any major information booboos please
> > chime in.
> >
> > Steve W
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 10:08 PM
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: [ddots-l] Re:
> > Re:_[ddots-l]_Re:_Re:_[ddots-l]_Configuring_soun
> > d_pat_ches_to_conform_t_o_Sonar’s_tempo
> >
> >
> >> Hi Ivan,
> >>
> >> Tomorrow, before I start work on my project, I'll take a quick look to
> >> see
> >> if the DSF packages work like the Dimension Pro sounds do within the
> >> synth
> >> rack.
> >>
> >> I'll email tomorrow my findings.
> >>
> >> Steve W
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <ivanlopez@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:10 PM
> >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Re:_[ddots-l]_Re:_Re:_[ddots-l]_Configuring_soun
> >> d_pat_ches_to_conform_t_o_Sonar’s_tempo
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks Steve,
> >>
> >> I am working on your suggestions, though I did go to the synth rack
> >> alt+8 and went down to the softsynth and patch in question and I did not
> >> see a place where you can adjust any parameters other than changing a
> >> patch.
> >>
> >> The rest of the options say: “synth is connected,” “Plug-in
> >> name” “Mute” “Solo” “synth is not frozen”
> >> “Automation” “automation write” “show assign controls”
> >>
> >> I also messed with the show assign controls and I can’t tell any
> >> changes when I pick settings from this option.
> >>
> >> Cakewalk’s rep said to go under Dimensions options (F4) and se if the
> >> cut off or amplitude modulation options will fix the problem.
> >>
> >> Thanks again and cheers!
> >>
> >> Iván
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re:_[ddots-l]_Re:_Re:_[ddots-l]_Configuring_soun
> >>> d_pat_ches_to_conform_t_o_Sonar’s_tempo
> >>> From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Date: Tue, September 06, 2011 7:44 am
> >>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Ivan,
> >>>
> >>> I too have some of the DSF products such as proteus 2000 which work in
> >>> dimension pro. Dimension Pro has some CT scrip's so you can go into the
> >>> parameters and change things like the reverb, Chorus, delay, Pitch and
> >>> so
> >>> on.
> >>>
> >>> I think this is the only way you are going to get the effects or
> >>> arpeggiater
> >>> sequences to be in time with Sonar.
> >>>
> >>> All the above is found in the synth rack.
> >>>
> >>> Hope this helps.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: <ivanlopez@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:19 PM
> >>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Re:_[ddots-l]_Configuring_sound_pat
> >>> ches_to_conform_t
> >>> o_Sonar’s_tempo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sorry, my below message apparently did not come through in the last
> >>> email.
> >>>
> >>> Hi Steve,
> >>>
> >>> I bought some expansion packs made by Digital Factory for use in
> >>> Dimension pro.
> >>>
> >>> Some of these sound patches or presets have a rhythm aspect to them that
> >>> is independent from Sonar’s arpeggeator and the rhythm is not aligned
> >>> to Sonar’s tempo.
> >>>
> >>> The rhythmic aspect of the presets I am referring to sometimes is
> >>> influenced by an arpeggio or reverb effect.
> >>>
> >>> Dimension, Rapture, and Z3tar+ have many of these presets that have a
> >>> rhythmic component and they are already configured to Sonar’s tempo.
> >>>
> >>> This means that I can alter Sonar’s tempo and the sound patch or
> >>> preset’s in Dimension, Rapture, and Z3tar+ will follow Sonar’s tempo
> >>> changes, but not when I do tempo changes with Digital Factories
> >>> expansion packs.
> >>>
> >>> I hope this makes sense,
> >>>
> >>> Cheers!
> >>>
> >>> Iván
> >>>
> >>> ------- Original Message --------
> >>> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Re:_[ddots-l]_Configuring_sound_pat
> >>> > ches_to_conform_t o_Sonar’s_tempo
> >>> > From: <ivanlopez@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > Date: Sun, September 04, 2011 11:58 pm
> >>> > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > -------- Original Message --------
> >>> > > Subject: [ddots-l]
> >>> > > Re:_[ddots-l]_Configuring_sound_patches_to_conform_t
> >>> > > o_Sonar’s_tempo
> >>> > > From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > > Date: Sun, September 04, 2011 2:07 pm
> >>> > > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Hi Ivan,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Do you mean arpeggiator patterns aren't matching tempo when you
> >>> > > change
> >>> > > tempo
> >>> > > in Sonar?
> >>> > > Try changing the sonar tempo up or down just to see if the
> >>> > > arpeggiator
> >>> > > even
> >>> > > changes tempo at all, I have a feeling it'll stay static as these
> >>> > > are
> >>> > > old
> >>> > > synths. You may find the answer you need in the synth rack as
> >>> > > dimension
> >>> > > Pro
> >>> > > does have fairly good access.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Sorry I couldn't be of anymore help.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Steve W
> >>> > >
> >>> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > > From: <ivanlopez@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 9:05 AM
> >>> > > Subject: [ddots-l] Configuring sound patches to conform to Sonar’s
> >>> > > tempo
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Howdy list,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > The sound patches for my Digital Factory expansion packs (for
> >>> > > Dimension)
> >>> > > do not follow Sonar’s tempo.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Has anybody come across this situation or does anybody know how to
> >>> > > configure sound patches so they conform to Sonar’s tempo?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Many thanks!
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Iván
> >>> > >
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