I went back to Jaws8, and it seems working fine now. Thanks Phil, Chi ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Muir To: Dancing Dots E-mail List Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: [ddots-l] CT7, Jaws9, Patch Browser Crash Hi Chi!! After reading your post, I decided to take the plunge and install Jaws 9. here are my findings with CT on Jaws 9.0.552.2 which, is the latest available version. As Chi reported, the event view doesn't speak at all well. If you try to use it then, Jaws reports whatever it happens to be stuck on at the time. If that's a note column then, Jaws will just say note. This happens even if you arrow off to another event or, down to another column. If you refresh the screen then, you can't see anything in the event view at all. Trying to change the tabs in Sonar is also somewhat flaky. Meaning that Jaws can become stuck on the reporting of a specific tab. Pressing a down arrow key, can sometimes cure this issue. The CT options dialog box, has also become completely unreadable. Sometimes, reloading jaws after you have opened Sonar, will cure this issue although, that's not a completely reliable solution. Conclusion: go back to Jaws 8. Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions Music And Audio Production URL: http://www.philmuir.com/ Band website: http://www.demuirs.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Chi Kim To: DancingDots List Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:59 AM Subject: [ddots-l] CT7, Jaws9, Patch Browser Crash I installed ct7, sonar7, and jaws9, and it seems there are quite a few issues. first of all, it seems Jaws is not refreshing sometimes. I have to manual refresh Jaws+esc in order to see the value of the control I'm on, I.E. quantize beat value. Also event view is not working at all. Sometimes go to name column on track pane fails. Refresh f6 doesn't work. I have to go out of the sonar window and come back, then it works. Lastly, anyone experience sonar7 crash when you click patch browser on track property dialog, especially hypersonic track? Chi