[ddots-l] Re: 808 kicks distoring
- From: "Sean A. Cummins" <seanacummins@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 08:06:33 -0700
AT-A-BOY Nic! Thanks, you have filled in the gap in my failing brain! LOL!
Sean
----- Original Message -----
From: W. Nick Dotson
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:00 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 808 kicks distoring
You can either use a light probe on the VU light, or an audio VU-Meter such
as that built by Richard Oehm as evolved from the Smith-Kettlewell design.
Nick
--Original Message Text---
From: Sean A. Cummins
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 07:40:14 -0700
Peek level on the board. As far as needing sighted help, there is a device,
that slips my mind right now, that can tell you when the clip light is
blinking. Someone on this list or the midiMag will know the device name. Just
post an inquiry.
Sean
----- Original Message -----
From: Omar Binno
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:28 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 808 kicks distoring
Gotch ya. Thanks. So having said that, should I be able to determine the peak
level from the meters within sonar then, or are you refering to peak levels on
the mixing board itself which would require sighted assistance?
Thanks a bunch Sean.
Omar Binno
www.omarbinno.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Sean A. Cummins
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:25 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 808 kicks distoring
OK Omar, here goes
All mixing consuls, channel strips have what is called an "operational
Amplifier" at their beginning stages for the initial signal boost. This is for
"attenuation" wrongly called "gain". "Gain"is misleading nomenclature. The word
"attenuation" means "to make clear", and does not necessarily equate to "gain".
Most "would be" engineers will use the "gain"knob at the top of a mixer to
boot, or cut their volume levels of their mix. The "gain" knob is supposed to
"attenuate" your signal and not be used as a volume control. Once the "peek"
volume is achieved, with out clip, then the process of "attenuation" is
complete and should not be changed, unless there is a new "peek" volume
introduced to the (OpAmp); e.g. the drummer has a cup of coffee from Starbucks
and he/she is now beating-the-heck out of the same drum. LOL!
Hope this helps.
Sean
----- Original Message -----
From: Omar Binno
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:13 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 808 kicks distoring
Thanks Sean. Can you elaborate on what you said in the following: "Also, when
setting your Allan And Heath channel clip level, once it is attenuated at the
input
stage of the operational amplifier, (OpAmp), you shouldn't have to change it
ever again. This should always remain a constant."
Omar Binno
www.omarbinno.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Sean A. Cummins
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:08 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 808 kicks distoring
Omar,
Use your direct out from each of the individual channels, rather then the
sends, unless your having to sub mix your drums, but, you should be sub mixing
internally with Sonar. This way you will eliminate some electronic hum because
of less circuitry for the signal to have passed through before being sent to
your DAW; likewise, reducing the chance for distortion. Also, when setting your
Allan And Heath channel clip level, once it is attenuated at the input stage of
the operational amplifier, (OpAmp), you shouldn't have to change it ever again.
This should always remain a constant.
Take Care,
Sean
----- Original Message -----
From: Omar Binno
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 5:40 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] 808 kicks distoring
Hello,
I'm using an Edirol FA66 with an Allan And Heath mixer. The FA66 is connected
via the sends and returns of the mixer. I have some samples of basey 808 kicks
that I play either through the sfz sampler, or through the dr008 synth. Some of
the 808's tend to distort when I play them. Oddly, this wasn't happening with
my Mackie 1604 while using the same drums, and i had the same type of
connection with the Mackie. Any thoughts or suggestions?
Omar Binno
www.omarbinno.com
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