hello all it's been a while since discussions have sprung up on our list, but the autumnal season starts, we got a windy city in London today, and it would be interesting to hear about current performances and new works..... new writings, and reflections. Troika Ranch's "Loop Diver" is coming up for premiere (in Nebraska), but I understand an early version was already shown in New York, and there are writings about the design and composition of the "loops" (loop techniques) and loop choreographies... It would interest me to hear more about these loop techniques, and how you see/understand dancing (actual physical repetition) in analogue theatre in relationship to the digital loop (based on algorithms or computational filters). Jennifer Parker-Starbuck has an interesting essay on a similar situation, in the work of the Wooster Group ("Hamlet"), and she seeks to describe what she calls "meta filmic post-dramatic theatre" --- the kind of "real-time" interaction between the Wooster actors, Hamlets and Ophelias, and the screen actors (of a film of a Hamlet theatre production from 1964 with R. Burton), and i think Wooster does not use camera vision or sensors but cues the digital data and tapes and "fakes" the "real time" - but they may not be quite so, probably they use a mixture of prerecorded and live projected video/generated video given the presence of cameras and mics on stage..... This month's Empyre debate, by the way, is on media art / networked art, and the collaboration on writing (online) see: http://networkedbook.org/ http://ulmer.networkedbook.org/the-learning-screen-introduction-electracy/ with regards Johannes Birringer DAP Lab London