Happy New Year to all : It's always good to start a new year with a little debate, and now Jamie Jewett has planted a seed that could be worth pursuing, a discussion not only about future meeting points, events, workshops, conferences or festivals, for those in the intersecting communities of dance/ performance/ music and art technologies and digital media practices, but also perhaps this question ---whether we need these meetings and where we need them and how we construct them---may need to go along with a necessary awareness of the historical trajectores that lie behind us, that have emerged and diverged. "IDAT," I suppose, was an umbrella name once used (in North America) for important gatherings (conference-exhibitions) of the evolving dance technology community in the 1990s, several (I believe four or five altogether) having taken place in Canada and the US........ but as Simon Biggs correctly points out, not everyone elsewhere knows that name, nor is that name a TM that belongs to anyone who at one point or another took it upon themselves to host an international dance and technology meeting...... and the more I think about it, the less I remember, and i can't find an archive of these "idats." Which is perhaps truly regrettable, although the "proceedings" were properly collected in print and edited, the last one dating back to 1999 (held at ASU and organized by John Mitchell and his team). http://art.net/resources/dtz/dtz.html I then looked up the dance and technology zone archive, and could not find many references to "Idat" (prior to 1999), and the archive is incomplete and was not continued. The dance tech mailist, initially initiated by Scott deLahunta and Mark Coniglio many years ago, and then moderated for a number of years by Scott Sutherland (at one point hosted at the OSU server, then migrated), stopped operating in March-April 2005, and we were left with uncertainty as to what that meant, or whether it had died or would be rejuvenated. As far as it concerned me at Nottingham, in the (then) final stages of preperation for the December 2005 Digital Cultures Lab, the communication breakdown was a very negative experience, which could only be compensated by the already grown, existing, and expanding networks that we are all part of. In the fall we then started this new list. At some point, it also became obvious to me that it was time to move forward to raise new questions and make other connections, our performance field (and the research that feeds into it), has grown quite complex and hybrid, and there is a constant and expanding influx of younger generations of artists (and also students)...... but as Jamie points out, if some of you are engaged in teaching dance/performance and new media practices, new theories of collaboration, new interdisciplinary methods of working, or in moving towards a PhD or shifting the educational patterns in your departments or companies, then these histories of the field (and our lovely bibliographies) may of course be of some relevance, even though I'd suggest the existing ones (http://art.net/resources/dtz/biblio.html) http://www.notam02.no/icma/interactivesystems/dance.html http://www.music.mcgill.ca/musictech/ISIDM/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_technology http://dance-technology.wikiverse.org/ http://staging.greatdance.com/danceblog/ and many others that might exist on various blogs or dance websites (I do not have a complete listing, sorry) , may often be out of date or abandoned or sleeping. Blogs tend to be fresher, but how many blogs can one read in one night? As to creating an organizational structure for an "Idat" organization, yes, that was attempted some time in 2002-03, there were elections, a board was formed, but the Board disbanded, like rock groups sometimes do, after finding it impossible to move forward and agree on how to move forward, and there was no funding to underwrite the organisational formation, nor was there a widespread agreement, in the first place, about the need for a formal organisation. Dancetechnology.com and .org sites say 'coming soon' in front of a blue sky, just as we have it here in Texas. As you all know, it takes tremendous commitment anbd idealism to run a non-profit venture. So i think, apart from the name "IDAT" which is used by other existing organisations, and apart from what IDAT meant and once was, this may be a good time to look forward, find out about yours and others' plans and objectives, projects worldwide but also in smaller locations and not just the metropoles ( bibliographies and their implicit histories, see above, are often quite euro-american and do not reflect the artistic work and the thinking being done elsewhere), educational changes, curatorial challenges, research implications....... , also reflecting on the cross-cultural emphasis and the questions regarding dance and science which were featured at the Digital Cultures Lab (http://www.digitalcultures.org). I would be pleased to hear more responses, productive criticism (of our existing platforms), and suggestions regarding the planning and implementation of larger and/or smaller meetings, conferences and international workshops. There is no central administration, and thus it will be hard to avoid overlaps or scheduling conflicts. Our new dance tech list needs to grow as well, so that messages can reach into all parts of the world. I heard at the DC Lab gathering that a number of initiatives in our field are under way, -- in Turkey, in Brasil, in Portugal, in France, then there is the MDF (Monaco Dance Forum) looming in December 2006, there are other festivals and screenings planned (as we heard from Doug), and it might be of a certain advantage if we create a "platform" for a calendar of events. More interesting, of course, are the ideas that drive such events, the new artwork that is being created, the new sottware and the new inter-collaborations that we see in such astonishing and manifold ways. regards Johannes Birringer Mother Dog Studios Houston, TX www.aliennationcompany.com -----Original Message----- From: dance-tech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of jamie jewett Sent: Tue 1/3/2006 4:10 PM To: dance-tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [dance-tech] IDAT? Greetings All! I am wondering what the current status is of IDAT - I know that a while back the old dance-tech/IDAT situation was dissolved or morphed into something new - and perhaps this is a process still in progress - as the dancetechnology.com and .org sites say 'coming soon' We were interested in beginning to explore hosting some version of IDAT or something similar and as such I was trying to get in touch with people who have been involved at the organizational/board level. Obviously we are all benefiting from Johannes continuing to offer sites for international discussion/exploration - such as the festivals he hosted at OSU and just recently the Digital Culture Lab - are there other movements afoot? trying to get in the loop -or start one.. best Jamie Jewett Brown University This email is intended solely for the addressee. It may contain private and confidential information. If you are not the intended addressee, please take no action based on it nor show a copy to anyone. In this case, please reply to this email to highlight the error. Opinions and information in this email that do not relate to the official business of Nottingham Trent University shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the University. Nottingham Trent University has taken steps to ensure that this email and any attachments are virus-free, but we do advise that the recipient should check that the email and its attachments are actually virus free. 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