[cryptome] Re: the myth, the LEGEND!

  • From: doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 12:12:25 +0000

Tx for that...coderman... That will keep me busy for a wee while... :-D . And there was me thinking that soma was summat to do with Aldous Huxley's experiment with drugs and Brave New World. Somatic thinking, somatic experience...Language as an emotional tool in thinking...lots of big words and concepts to learn there. Ancient Chinese philosophy and practice certainly has a lot to offer...and it has only become popular in the West in the last 50 years or so.

Have you ever heard of Milton Erickson? He lived in the earlier part of the last century...a pioneer in his day, got a big institute in America named after him. Helped lots of people, little old ladies learned to read and write, mums learned to control the wildness in their little boys, children learned to control their pain when they hurt themselves falling over, the dying learned to control the pain of advanced terminal cancer; a fisherman once offered him his biggest fish, after they helped him carry his canoe passed some rapids on an expedition in the Rockies; an offer he declined, incidentally, preferring more of the smaller ones, because he understood that they made their money from the biggest fish...Amazing man. Even his life story, I found, was educational, entertaining and interesting...though it might not be to others tastes...And nowadays of course, people make lots of money out of his knowledge...with dubious results...but there you are, that's advanced capitalist society for you...turn it into a product, copyright it, advertise it, market it and Bingo..."I'm in the money..." :-) .

see url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_H._Erickson

A different approach again to mental, neurological, neurophysical, psychological, brain modelling and behaviour. Neurolinguistic programming of a different kind. Science has moved on of course, since Milton's day; some of those words didn't exist in those days, and they most certainly didn't have brain machines...but he was certainly a man who went along with feelings.

Cor! The things one learns on this list...sumfink new every day...right enough.
Cheers!  I shall eagerly devour it....once again, thank you...

P.S. One of these days, we might all get a pocket magnetometer and point it at one anothers head, press a little button and if it comes up green, we will know we can trust one another, might even have a degrees of trust button on it. Concepts of trust are a big thing these days, lack of trust leads to all sorts of conflicts and misunderstandings...don't you think?

On 17/12/14 03:01, coderman wrote:
On 12/16/14, doug<douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
One of the best ways of deceiving people, is to believe in the lie.   To
be so well versed in it, that no weakness, no crack can be found.  This
is called ones "legend" a very special word which spies use.  Credible
legends are very difficult to create today, the pervading nature of
computers, of massive digital storage and mass searching, will often
find the crib in the legend...which is why it isn't used so often, (e.g.
see the programme "The Americans") and of course, it is a lot cheaper
and more efficient to use computers...
for a similar yet contrary perspective, see:
"Trying Not to Try - The Art and Science of Spontaneity"
  by  Edward Slingerland

In Trying Not To Try, Edward Slingerland explains why we find
spontaneity so elusive, and shows how early Chinese thought points the
way to happier, more authentic lives. We’ve long been told that the
way to achieve our goals is through careful reasoning and conscious
effort. But recent research suggests that many aspects of a satisfying
life, like happiness and spontaneity, are best pursued indirectly. The
early Chinese philosophers knew this, and they wrote extensively about
an effortless way of being in the world, which they called wu-wei
(ooo-way). They believed it was the source of all success in life, and
they developed various strategies for getting it and hanging on to it.

With clarity and wit, Slingerland introduces us to these thinkers and
the marvelous characters in their texts, from the butcher whose blade
glides effortlessly through an ox to the wood carver who sees his
sculpture simply emerge from a solid block. Slingerland uncovers a
direct line from wu-wei to the Force in Star Wars, explains why wu-wei
is more powerful than flow, and tells us what it all means for getting
a date. He also shows how new research reveals what’s happening in the
brain when we’re in a state of wu-wei—why it makes us happy and
effective and trustworthy, and how it might have even made
civilization possible.

perhaps one day,
  we'll scrutinize each other's sincerity through self evident measures. [0]

0. Magnetoencephalography

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