[cryptome] Re: The GCHQ Cryptome slide could be a mockup/disinfo

  • From: Shelley <shelley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@xxxxxxxxxx>, cryptome <cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2015 11:10:51 -0700

On October 8, 2015 10:44:02 AM Travis Biehn <tbiehn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Who cares about these personalities and their websites? Who cares if JYA is
jerk/whacko/nerd/wizard mage?
You should assume he is an attacker, just like everyone else.

Getting caught up in this he-said-she-said is totally, ultimately, absurdly

Who cares about cryptome keeping server logs? If you're worried about
showing up in logs then you ought to be using TAILS. JYAs logs are just
less accurate copies of what the TLAs, his hosting provider, their upstream
peers, the guys on the lower floor at the PX & the memory scrapers
implanted on his server already keep.


You're right about the privacy aspect, but still missing the entire point.

I don't care about showing up in server logs, although my personal security practices are much different now than they were six years ago. I may have spotted my own information in the data, and I might be able to prove it (the Palm Pre is in a box 'o bits & crap somewhere.)

The bigger picture is not why Cryptome appears to be distributing old log files, but validity of the GHCQ slide in question. That's why all the data is being put up for scrutiny, and we are losing sight of the importance of it with all the noise.

Doesn't matter if JY is a fed asset. Doesn't matter if Best is a troll with a personal vendetta against JY/Cryptome (neither of which I believe to be true, but still.)

A slide was presented as being part of the Snowden dump. A researcher has shown that with these log files, anyone could have made this slide. This is a Big Fucking Deal with possibly numerous implications about a much larger dataset.

Forget about who is saying what and just look at the data and draw your own conclusions. We are better than this.


On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:28 PM, John Young <jya@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Mike Best should keep digging, hardly scratched the surface of yards
> way too fenced by secrecy.

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