On October 8, 2015 1:19:58 PM Travis Biehn <tbiehn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
There's one message:
Whatever is technically possible will happen. It will continue to happen,
whether they be your government, someone else's government a corporation
that handles your data or by criminals.
Build systems that are secure from what is technically possible; not
because you've deleted the logs - but because there is no data to grab.
Snowden will declare he personally made it up in one epic last disclosure,
with a dickbutt on the last slide.
On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Shelley <shelley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On October 8, 2015 10:44:02 AM Travis Biehn <tbiehn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Who cares about these personalities and their websites? Who cares if JYA is
>> jerk/whacko/nerd/wizard mage?
>> You should assume he is an attacker, just like everyone else.
>> Getting caught up in this he-said-she-said is totally, ultimately,
>> Who cares about cryptome keeping server logs? If you're worried about
>> showing up in logs then you ought to be using TAILS. JYAs logs are just
>> less accurate copies of what the TLAs, his hosting provider, their
>> peers, the guys on the lower floor at the PX & the memory scrapers
>> implanted on his server already keep.
> You're right about the privacy aspect, but still missing the entire point.
> I don't care about showing up in server logs, although my personal
> security practices are much different now than they were six years ago. I
> may have spotted my own information in the data, and I might be able to
> prove it (the Palm Pre is in a box 'o bits & crap somewhere.)
> The bigger picture is not why Cryptome appears to be distributing old log
> files, but validity of the GHCQ slide in question. That's why all the data
> is being put up for scrutiny, and we are losing sight of the importance of
> it with all the noise.
> Doesn't matter if JY is a fed asset. Doesn't matter if Best is a troll
> with a personal vendetta against JY/Cryptome (neither of which I believe to
> be true, but still.)
> A slide was presented as being part of the Snowden dump. A researcher has
> shown that with these log files, anyone could have made this slide. This
> is a Big Fucking Deal with possibly numerous implications about a much
> larger dataset.
> Forget about who is saying what and just look at the data and draw your
> own conclusions. We are better than this.
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:28 PM, John Young <jya@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Mike Best should keep digging, hardly scratched the surface of yards
>> > way too fenced by secrecy.
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