[cryptome] Re: The Double Edged Sword of Cyber Warfare

  • From: Gary Wallin <garylwallin@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:03:14 -0500

I felt happy and vindicated when Y2K turned out to be a near non-event. It was an annoying coding problem, not an Apocalyptic disaster.

And I think, that for the most part Cybersecurity and CyberWarfare are just annoying problems, best dealt with operational security.

Instead of laser light focusing on the dangers of Cyber Weapons, we should be putting more energy into trying to understand how the Internet is going to affect us socially and politically. The changes that are occurring from the everyday usage of the NET are going to be far more profound than the changes that we make because of cyber-criminals and cyber-terrorists. The Panopticon we live in was created by human wants and needs, not by cyber-terrorists.

I didn't stock up with bottled water, get a generator, and year's supply of food to deal with Y2K. And I'm not going to be panicked into advocating that for the alleged Virtual Apocalypse some claim is coming. I think that people, civilization, and the Internet are robust enough to survive both the real and imaginary dangers we hear about.

Gary

On 6/25/2015 10:59 AM, John Young wrote:

More likely cyberwarfare will turn out to be over-hyped nonsense like
Year 2000. Some will benefit, call them the preachers of cyberthreats,
the coercive cops of security needed everywhere all the time, inside
your quivering carcass and air-bagged Humvee.

Or more specifically, shade-treed, garaged, storefronted, standards
eluding cryptographers and comsec astrologers, or more pinheadedly
their PR hypographers, their Snowdens and Mannings and Assanges
and sponsoring Cybercoms.

Still, Cryptome will appreciate your getting off our high heeled stilettos.


At 10:52 AM 6/25/2015, you wrote:
See url: http://www.timesofisrael.com/the-double-edged-sword-of-cyber-warfare/

One week after the Israeli army formally recognized cyber weapons as a fourth dimension of warfare, alongside land, air and sea, the defence minister on Wednesday sang the praises of digital weapons, saying that they can attack and conquer enemy assets without leaving a trace.

Trouble is...Israel has the same vulnerability regarding cyber attacks from other nations.

That makes it equal then...All in deepshit together... J.

At some stage in the near future, given the speed at which this area of technology is developing; there is going to be a really big cyber attack on a nation state, which will be successful, if our intelligent services aren’t careful...and the whole infrastructure of something like financial services, a stock exchange or two, or the power supply, or water supply will fail. Maybe the time is arriving for some kind of international agreement and social contract between peoples, states and individuals which protects us all from such things...but, such a course is highly unlikely... Experience dictates that it has to happen really big...before they believe that they are not impervious...
ATB
Dougie.

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