Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well Neville did tell me that I can be controversial here. He has = suspended me more than once on the geocentrism list , so here is = something to feast on.=20 from , http://www.traditio.com/comment/com0504.htm if you want to get more.=20 Marty Minto (An evangelical Christian talk-show host ) and Popes.=20 We might say to our participants at the outset of what will be a long = period of daily news developments around the death of JPII and = subsequent events, that raw press stories from Rome can never be = accepted at face value. First of all, Newvatican lies in its own = interest. Secondly, press reports are written by people who know very = little about Catholicism and the Church. That is why, for an informed = viewpoint, one must rely on analytical sources of long experience, like = TRADITIO.=20 We saw the "Year of the Three Popes" -- the death of Paul VI, the = election of John Paul I, the death of John Paul I, and the election of = John Paul II. We saw the death of John XXIII and of Pius XII. We have = been Catholic from the beginning -- not converted, not reverted --, but = rock-solid traditional Roman Catholic, with the emphasis on Roman.=20 Thus, we will fill in for you the gaps that others leave out and correct = the ignorant statements that you will hear from the raw press. Moreover, = we will screen out the propaganda of the Church of the New Order and = tell it "like it is." As our participants know, for over ten years now, = TRADITIO, the Dean of Traditional Roman Catholic Internet Sites, has = told it to you straight and independent. Some people don't like our = directness and independence (but they continue to read us!).=20 To them we say, if you want pabulum fit for children, read the secular = press or go Newchurch sites. Read the here-today-gone-tomorrow sites = that have no background in Catholicism, let alone traditional = Catholicism. There are plenty of them that will spin the line of the = counterfeit Church of Love or Church of the New Springtime until you = can't wait to return to the honesty of TRADITIO.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- April 19 - Within the Octave of St. Joseph (Semidouble Feast) Doubt the Sanctity of JPII, Lose Your Job From: Fr. Moderator=20 =20 Pastor Marty Minto Questioned JPII's Sanctity and Was Fired Well, Marty, Quite a Number of Catholics Agree with You An evangelical Christian talk-show host who entertained a caller's = question about whether the late JPII would go to heaven has been fired. = Marty Minto, 39, a senior pastor with three years' experience as host on = WORD-FM in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, as well as stints in three other = cities, was told that he was alienating listeners.=20 Minto fielded a question from a caller who asked whether the pope would = go to heaven. Many evangelical Christians believe that someone must be a = "born-again" believer to enter heaven. Minto, who is also senior pastor = of the 100-member Turning Point Community Church, said he told the = caller that whether someone was born-again was personal and "between an = individual and the Creator."=20 Well, Pastor Minto, you might be surprised to learn that a lot of = Catholics are questioning the very same thing. Of course, there has been = a total media blackout on the question, but Church history would lead = one to believe that quite a number of the 260-odd popes are in the = Inferno, and most of the rest in the Purgatorio. On the other hand, = there have been only two recognized pope-saints in the past 700 years.!=20 snip.=20 -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- -- Type: image/jpeg -- File: com0504ze.jpg