"My impression of SFV is that the dev team just took random mechanics from
various games, coupled it with their own (mostly bad) design decisions,
marketed it with a philosophy that didn't really exist in previous titles
("commitment") and expected it to be a good game"
The word commitment can be swapped out for faith there and we all know
faith never built any airplanes or sewer systems.
If the core philosophy of the game is mumbo jumbo crap then anything they
build on top of it will be crap too.
Lazy uninspired devs + a ravenous audience that will throw money at any new
game regardless of how complete it is = the situation in which we find
ourselves.
And buying the games ironically to slag them off or in hopes that something
will come right still pays capcom or whoever the same money.
On 27 August 2015 at 16:17, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
My turn:
My impression of SFV is that the dev team just took random mechanics from
various games, coupled it with their own (mostly bad) design decisions,
marketed it with a philosophy that didn't really exist in previous titles
("commitment") and expected it to be a good game.
For example, the game has an Alpha Counter. Great. Except there are
virtually no blockstrings (some chains aren't blockstrings!) and you can
still mash DPs to beat them. So what's the point?
They added Crush Counters, which in theory should be a fantastic frame
trapping tool, except that frame traps are extremely weak because normals
have terrible frame data on block. In other words, you can just get jabbed
out of your Crush Counter. No instead of trying to make these moves
better, they add yet another mechanic - punishing a reversal on block now
nets you a counter hit. That's completely the opposite of what a counter
hit is.
Moves are so bad on block (besides the terrible hitboxes) that it's risky
to even to stuff like cr.mk xx hadou because it's punishable at most
ranges. And if you don't cancel, the opponent gets frame advantage! Ryu's
sweep in SFV is -7f on block. In SFIV it's -14f. And it's about 10x more
punishable in SFV because of non-existent pushback. Explain that. Capcom
just doesn't know how to design fighting games any more.
The stages are just as big as SFIV, but walkspeeds are slower and normals
are worse and zoning is extremely weak. What does this mean? A lot of
walking back and forth doing nothing because your normals are too weak to
reach and throw fireballs is risky. That's why the game is slower than
SFIV.
I like the idea of going back to fundamentals, but this game just looks
like a worse version of Alpha 2 x 3rd Strike. Why would I want to play it
when there are better options?
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Fair enough, but I can honestly say that I don't buy your reasons. It's
like you're just saying what you've read elsewhere.
How often have ever gotten hit by an OS in SFIV? You've probably escaped
pressure with noob-friendly backdashes and mashing exponentially more often
than you actually got punished with an OS.
Read backdash and punish with Ultra? Why would you do that? Backdashes
don't have hit invincibility. cr.lp into DP? That's just not going to
happen unless you're mashing, but the fact that it's even an option on
defense is a BAD thing.
Do you know how weak throws are in this game? Smaller range and slower
than SFIV. Not only that, but they removed kara throws in the latest
build. Yes, read that again.
The game is SLOWER than SFIV at higher levels of play for reasons I will
elaborate on in my next mail about why I don't think it's such a good game.
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 3:53 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I don't dislike the way it plays.
unlike sf4 where I disliked it right off the bat.
No OS. I don't like that you can cover yourself from different
eventualities depending on what the opponent does. You read backdash into
ultra like a man. you read a throw or you get crlp into dp.
I like that you can build-a-combo with v-trigger. so you have your
normal bnb's but if you have v trigger you can add onto your bnb.
No focus kuk, which ties into No OS paragraph coz you must press a
button and get opened up or get thrown.
Theres a stun gauge so more fraudulent wins are abundant.
easy combos can lead to big damage if you have meter.
faster recovery on knockdown. game looks faster than sf4.
I think that's about all I can gather.
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:42:39 +0200
Subject: Re: Hello
From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
What makes you think it's a good game, LB?
Take your time.
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 3:34 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
its a really good game.
takin it back to old school tactics with some new school elements.
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 06:33:23 -0700
Subject: Re: Hello
From: greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
I wanna play SF5 and see how it is
On Aug 27, 2015 2:40 PM, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
KYS
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 2:36 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
salie get us a copy of sf5 pls.
I think this might be the best game
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From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Hello
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:25:17 +0000
Hmmm. I can do, but really shouldn’t blame the IT department for wanting
me to spend the day doing actual work rather than stuffing around on random
forums.
Yawn. Long day is long.
*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
*Sent:* 27 August 2015 2:23 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
@Stu check if this lets you access blocked sites:
https://getlantern.org/
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The new Transformers game looks neet!
ttps://youtu.be/wDQr4MgcE9o
On 27 Aug 2015 13:19, "Nicholas Robertson-Muir" <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
redrum
On 27 Aug 2015 12:30, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yup.
Now Nick can stare at the photo can cry himself to sleep knowing that
the pig is mine!
*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *richard moorcroft
*Sent:* 27 August 2015 12:20 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* RE: Hello
Cute pig
On Aug 27, 2015 12:11 PM, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hey Nick. Here is the photo of the pig that you asked for. I put him
nice and centre.
*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Nicholas Robertson-Muir
*Sent:* 27 August 2015 11:40 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* RE: Hello
Who is going to be at session this Saturday?
I see Youtube's online game streaming is on the roll.
I plan to check it out this evening.
On 27 Aug 2015 11:30, "Wynand-Ben" <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Did GR45 with shenlong
Oh and I kinda like my Ancient spirit guards
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From: lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Hello
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 07:31:00 +0000
im sure I can do tx. I just couldn't do it with a double stacked fd...
need dat spirit guards.
I was thinking of running innas with exploding palm.
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From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Hello
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 07:27:47 +0000
Since he just said that he can’t do TX, I presume he means that you and
I run the TX bounties while he parks off in town.
*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
*Sent:* 27 August 2015 9:24 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* RE: Hello
whut
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From: lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Hello
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 07:19:09 +0000
we should do tx bounties together rather than splitting up. maybe the
yield vs time is better than running split t6.
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From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Hello
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 07:13:39 +0000
Oh, for the mats for the cube, definitely run higher T as that gives you
more. Dunno about the ubers.
*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
*Sent:* 27 August 2015 8:45 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* RE: Hello
I tried tx and got bopt coz Ima leming and trying to double stack fd's/.
:(
I need the new spirit guards.
I think rimeheart + super attack speed will work well.
what is the purpose of running ubers on greater difficulty when they
drop 2 materials on t6.?
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From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Hello
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 06:37:30 +0000
On the weapon side, it’s important for crusader builds – those flails or
shields with specific abilities.
For everyone else, I dunno. What elements do you use? I’m tempted to put
together a frost leap-quake Barb and put Rimeheart as the weapon thing.
Throw in the new iceblink gem and it’s looking much better. On the armour
side, either the leap boots, or frostburn. Hmmm. Actually a straight HotA
build using the same might be fun.
Did you try to fun normal/GRs? Ran a TX normal rift. Was fine. Ran a 50
GR and it was fine. Didn’t die in either of those and finished with a
couple of minutes to spare.
I needs the Hammerdin set.
*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
*Sent:* 27 August 2015 8:04 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* RE: Hello
Morning peeps,
I dunno how I feel about kanai's cube.
theres just too many possibilities.
Rrrog or unity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why cant I have both?
Also, besides a furnace what else can I extract?
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 11:09:36 -0700
Subject: Re: Hello
From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Yeah, he's a virtuoso.
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Stephen Scheidel <
gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That guy is fucked up good though O_O
On 26 August 2015 at 19:58, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
That's pretty cool.
I'm not really a fan of raw Uke but my "imagine percussion and bass
skills" are sufficient tier to enjoy it.
On 26 August 2015 at 19:35, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Watch Jake Shimabukuro do it on a Ukele
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSkP3uym5k
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Stephen Scheidel <
gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Prince is such a G.
and also George Harrison for writing a sick treck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y
On 26 August 2015 at 18:21, Ashraf Barendse <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I watched fantfourstic the other day. The best word to describe it would
be 'meh'
Also Doom looks like Aids.
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:33 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
the cops are too stronk for magneto to resist.
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 15:43:10 +0200
Subject: Re: Hello
From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
How godlike are the graphics and animation in this short?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5-JVvCrGC8
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Put your bandanna on and go swapsies with the primary school kids
through the gap in the fence by the tree during 2nd break.
Wear sunnies and an overcoat too.
On Wednesday, 26 August 2015, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Dammit.
Want a piggy.
I got nothing to trade tho so I'll take what I can get.
Send me a pic of the pig would ya?
On 26 Aug 2015 09:32, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
@Nick – sorry, but I don’t have a spare of the piggy. Not giving up my
current one either. It seems to be the best one.
Got spares of Frankey, Cheezz, the cat, duck and giraffe.
*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
*Sent:* 26 August 2015 8:46 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* RE: Hello
f man I need a furnace too.
you don't need rrog?
------------------------------
From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Hello
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 06:39:08 +0000
Check your profile on battlenet – there is not a space to show which
kanai ability you have equipped.
Gonna start out vanilla – furnace/hexing/mara and see how much it helps.
Will stuff around with other ones later.
*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
*Sent:* 26 August 2015 8:30 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* RE: Hello
stu please try again later.
@paas, johnny doesn't look right without ensenga.
@salie, ogawa vs Daigo. O_o . Daigo does different wall combos with sol.
------------------------------
From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Hello
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 06:15:12 +0000
So, new Diablo patch is out. Tried logging on this morning, but no luck.
Didn’t have much time to keep retrying.
*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
Behalf Of *Di Lhong
*Sent:* 26 August 2015 5:14 AM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Hello
o_0?
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
The command was lost in translation.
It is "2 Motions and Di". You do the motion twice and tap Di on the
head.
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 6:47 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
lol that is funny.
Btw how can it be the super motion and D when Elphelt's cake super is 2
motions and D.
it must be 2 buttons methink.
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