Re: Cape Town Showdown is coming!

  • From: Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 15:46:40 +0200

Insane!

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Don't remember if this was posted


http://www.siliconera.com/2015/06/12/arc-system-works-acquires-the-rights-to-river-city-ransom-and-double-dragon/

http://www.arcsystemworks.jp/technos/

A new Double Dragon game by Arcsys? That would be godlike.


On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Their biggest mistake is taking cues from tournament players. Just as
good players don't necessarily make good coaches, they also don't make good
game designers.

The competitive approach is that everything should be stupidly strong and
players should use their skill to adjust. This is good in theory, but very
hard to do in practice. They should leave stuff like this to professional
Battle Directors, not gamers. Tournament players should be involved in
testing, not design.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

If the guys making the games can't do a good job without fan feedback
then they are incompetent and should kill themselves.
Nobody has any balls anymore, be it a game,movie,album etc you are only
gonna get the good stuff if someone with a good idea gets to realise it
without being forced in certain directions.
Art is not a fucking democracy.

But that ideal creative process makes investors disappear so .. Sigh.



On Monday, 6 July 2015, Di Lhong <marongdin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Some moves just can't simply be patched out by numbers...some stuff
needs to be removed or change it's "low/overhead" to something else
completely.

I hope they make every character's variations either useful or fun to
play. I mean what's the point of Kitana's mournful variation...

It would be hilariously broken if they scrapped the whole variation
idea and fused all 3 variation into 1 character...get ready for some broken
ass shit if that happens lolz


On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Di Lhong <marongdin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Didn't scorp have some 70% combo during demo?

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Interesting posts from Viscant. I do wonder though if the NRS games
would’ve lost people regardless of their non-stop patching. I guess we’ll
never know. And after all their MK9 patches, they still couldn’t balance
the game properly. At least Injustice was balanced, not that I was
particularly cheerful about the way in which they did it – like the
Bladam
walk speed nerf…



I wonder how Subby or Scorp would’ve been in MK9 if they hadn’t
nerfed them at the start.



*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
*Sent:* 06 July 2015 2:26 PM

*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Cape Town Showdown is coming!



Hah. You should read some of the discussions I have with people
about this. They're simply just clueless.

"I play Honda in SFIV so I don't mind the slow walkspeed. In fact,
I'm glad that they are doing this!"

Doesn't realize that Honda and Ryu have the same walkspeed in SFIV...



On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I really don’t get the idea of nerfing movement. How can that in
anyway help people? Who would possibly be in favour of this? Sigh…





*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
*Sent:* 06 July 2015 2:22 PM


*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Cape Town Showdown is coming!



I don’t know enough about SF to know whether SF5 is making dumb
decisions.

First thing to watch is movement speed and hitboxes. Both of these
were nerfed. That's your clearest indication that they don't know what
they are doing.



On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I wonder about some of these changes to the regular franchises.



The movement nerf in Tekken is retarded. I can’t think of any good
reason why it would happen. That’s about the only real problem that I
have
with the current build of T7. I expect some work on normalising damage
for
certain characters, but that’s about it. Also I don’t understand the
whole
1 button throw break thing. That’s two major nerfs/dumb-downs.



MK…well… I dunno. It’s hard to take MK seriously. MK9 was so badly
unbalanced that strategy didn’t exist. MKX seems way too focussed on the
‘get opponent to corner then pressure with 50/50 low/overhead strings
that
lead to half bar damage’. They’ve changed the game but not in a good way.
Maybe it will work out in the end. I’m guessing that, like with
Injustice,
by the time the last patches of MKX hit, we won’t recognise the gameplay
from the original build.



How about GG? I know that they dumbed down the whole roman cancel
thing, but overall xrd doesn’t seem to have too many stupid decisions
messing it up.



I don’t know enough about SF to know whether SF5 is making dumb
decisions.



*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Scheidel
*Sent:* 06 July 2015 2:08 PM


*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Cape Town Showdown is coming!



That's the problem with these games bruh, they expect us to remember
all these things in order to play their games.

Like why must I take responsibility for my gameplay when the
developers are actively trying to distract me with inputs and timing.

Such bullshit that I must buy a game and then they expect me to play
it to get good.



On 6 July 2015 at 14:02, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

LB, is that you?



*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Scheidel
*Sent:* 06 July 2015 2:01 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Cape Town Showdown is coming!



LeL wut is spellan and culkulus.

who got tyme to lrn aneway?



On 6 July 2015 at 13:58, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

To be fair, the last one is only true if you’re more of a
sociolinguist than a grammar nazi.



*From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
*Sent:* 06 July 2015 1:57 PM
*To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: Cape Town Showdown is coming!



Will someone please shoot me.



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