Thanks for this Grant - I'll be heading on vacation in a week, but will try
to follow up on this at the end of August or early September. It sounds
like this car provides an opportunity to check out the stencil gold paint
colour as well as maroon.
As for rats in the walls of No.8, oh that doesn't make me feel good about it
as a restaurant!
Rob Kirkham
----- Original Message -----
From: Grant & Marilyn Ferguson
To: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [cpsig] gold leaf lettering etc
Hi Rob,
I am a Director of WCRA and you certainly may have permission to carry out
paint chip analysis at any time. One of our basic principals of restoration
is to "get it right" and paint colour is most important for the finish of a
project after the details have been done. We have found this to be an often
times difficult task due to the many "hues" of a certain railway's colour as
it was mixed by different suppliers. We think that the CPR tuscan red on the
tender of 2860 is about as "right" as we can get, but your opinion and input
would be most welcome. You might want to compare the colour on 4069 with the
colour on 2860 and see if you can determine any differences.
You can contact Singh Biln at the Park at: projectmanager@xxxxxxxx and
arrange a time.Singh is most knowledgeable about the paint on 2860 so you
will have some interesting conversations. Mention that I sent you to him.
Grant Ferguson,
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Kirkham
To: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [cpsig] gold leaf lettering etc
Hi Jeff,
That question would be tough to answer without actually scraping down
through the paint that has not peeled off and then slowly sanding through
the resulting paint chip layer by layer. It was pouring for a good part of
my time up there, so I was focused taking photos and keeping the camera dry,
with the idea I'd look at the photos later. As I said to some friends the
other day, I take the pictures while there and do the thinking later. Not a
perfect approach, but it keeps me from getting confused!!!
I can offer two observations to support the gold paint over gold leaf
hypothesis.
1) the word "lake" clearly has lighter coloured paint peeling off the gold.
Since this is not part of the painted lettering for "32", chances are it is
for the car name Lake Chamcook. Trouble is the lighter coloured areas do
not nicely follow a stencil outline....
2) a photo I did not post shows the work paint - oxide red - peeling off of
maroon on the lower corner of the side at one end of the car. Beneath the
oxide, painted onto the maroon is a clear yellow painted "R" for right side
(?). If they painted the R, they must have painted the rest of the
lettering, no?
Perhaps one of the volunteers up there is on this list and can get
permission to do the paint chip analyses I suggest. If someone provides the
chip, I'm happy to do the work myself.
Rob Kirkham
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Pinchbeck
To: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 7:46 PM
Subject: RE: [cpsig] gold leaf lettering etc
Robert, this is an interesting find. Lake Chamcook was renumbered to
business car 32 in July 1962. So this means the car survived until the end
of its revenue service in gold leaf? This is much later than I would have
expected. Is there any indication that may be gold paint was painted
overtop of the gold leaf? It's hard to tell from the photos. What do you
think?
Jeff Pinchbeck
