Dick, I stand to be corrected here, but I thought that all stuff for the
North Shore (CP or CN) was staying on the CN all the way from Boston Bar to
the North Shore since that new agreement went into effect a month or so ago.
Don't think the CP North Shore stuff is any longer being routed over the
Mission Bridge via Coquitlam just to get back on the CN at Sapperton. I was
under the impression that part of the point of the exercise (of keeping
North Shore traffic on the CN) was to get rid of exactly this sort of move
at the Sapperton Interchange. I have personally witnessed westbound loaded
CN trains coming through the Coquitlam yard enroute for the sulphur pile at
Port Moody. My understanding of the new arrangement is that the trade off
is being made at Boston Bar. If it's going to the South Shore, a CPR crew
climbs on (regardless of whose train) and if it's North Shore, a CN crew
climbs on regardless of whose train and stays on the CN for the whole way.
Joe Smuin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Sutcliffe" <ras1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "CPSig chatlist" <cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:55 PM
Subject: [cpsig] Re: Joint operation with CN in Thompson/Fraser Canyons
Bob Grace wrote
Leo, John is correct the western end of the joint operation is at
Mission
where a bridge crosses the Fraser River and connects CP and CN.
However,
the two railways recently approved an agreement to operate each others
trains to certain areas west of Mission. CN will handle trains to the
North
Shore and CP will handle trains to the south shore of Burrard Inlet. I
assume that this means that trains to the south shore would all cross
to the
CP line at Mission and all trains to the north shore would cross to
CN. I
believe the agreement also included trains from the Roberts Bank coal
and
intermodal terminals.
You are partly right Bob.
The CPR trains for the North Shore also cross to the CPR tracks at
Mission, Then pass through the Coquitlam facilities before taking the
New Westminster branch to CP Junction, on the Coquitlam/New Westminster
boundary, where they rejoin the CN on the BNSF line to Vancouver at
Braid Street. Leaving the BNSF trackage at Willingdon Ave, Burnaby,
they enter the tunnel to the Second Narrows bridge.
I think the CN crews pickup the trains at CP Junction.
Intermodal and coal trains for Roberts Bank stay on the South side of
the Fraser river to Fort Langley, where they swing South onto a line
that is a mix of CN, CPR, and Southern BC (ex BCER) to Colman, where
they join the BNSF briefly before heading West on BC Rail (the only
piece not in CN hands) to Roberts Bank.
Don't understand why it took them so long to work out these agreements
;-}
Dick Sutcliffe
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