Today, once again, I can read the digest on my iPad but this same digest
appears as a blank page on my pc. However, none of the pictures that people
have sent appear on my iPad. Jeff's email which I think has photos only
displays a column of "=20" on the left side of his email. There are 7 of these
listed in a row. No pictures. Net. Nada.
Richard
On Jan 29, 2020, at 1:10 AM, FreeLists Mailing List Manager
<ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
cpha Digest Tue, 28 Jan 2020 Volume: 02 Issue: 010
In This Issue:
[cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
[cpha] Re: cpha Digest V2 #9
[cpha] Re: early 20the cnetury boxcars
[cpha] Re: cpha Digest V2 #9
[cpha] Re: cpha Digest V2 #9
[cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
[cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
[cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
[cpha] Re: Last February CP train crash to be covered by CBC
[cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
[cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
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From: Jim Little <jlittletrains@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 23:10:10 -0800
Subject: [cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
You can try this fellow on Shapeways. He even says if you can't find the
truck you need he'll probably make it for you. He has the CP lightweight
trucks ( for the 2200's and Grove cars) in HO and N
https://www.shapeways.com/shops/panamintmodels
Jim Little
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 8:56 PM Jon <jon.makar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Manny Jacob’s CP Caboose Color Guide mentions that cabooses built between
1894 and 1912 were numbered in the 3000 series. Number 3445 is shown on
page 6 of his book in a 1906 picture. Given the number and the
construction, 3015 was likely built in 1894. It could have been built
earlier if it was renumbered into the 3000 series.
The trucks are double arch bar trucks, which were used in Canada and by
some roads in the U.S. I’m not sure when CP switched to regular arch bar,
but the picture in Jacob’s book shows 3445 with regular arch bar trucks.
I’m not aware of any manufacturer who offers double arch bar trucks.
Jon Makar
Sent from my iPhone
date.On Jan 27, 2020, at 10:29 PM, G Burridge <gburridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
Not quite what you requested, but ... No information as to location or
As for the trucks, what design are they?------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<b647f7b4.jpg>
(Off the web, many years ago.)
Gerry Burridge - PO Box 152 - Pte.Claire-Dorval, Que. - H9R 4N9fruit of labour,
"Labour is prior to, and independent of capital. Capital is only the
and could never have existed if Labour had not first existed. Labour issuperior
to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --- AbrahamLincoln
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From: "Richard McQuade" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender
Subject: [cpha] Re: cpha Digest V2 #9
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 13:20:43 -0000
Hi Jeff,
As you can see below, there isn't any text here when I open this on my pc
using Windows 10. My email is icloud. However, when I opened this on my ipad
I got all of the messages. I noticed that sometimes I would get a blank
message on my pc but thought that was because it was sent automatically and
there hadn't been any messages posted the previous day. Now I see that isn't
the case. I do not know what to do about this. Sometimes the messages come up
on both devices (I assume because sometimes I get the list of messages on my
pc) but I don't check one against the other every day. (It's just a fluke
that I did so this morning.) Nonetheless, as you can see, I am not getting
these on both devices.
I wonder if other people using icloud for mail but are using a pc are having
the same problem. They might be having the same experience but haven't
checked messages from freelists every day on both of their devices.
Suggestions?
Richard
On January 28, 2020 at 1:10 a.m., FreeLists Mailing List Manager
<ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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From: "Richard McQuade" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender
Subject: [cpha] Re: early 20the cnetury boxcars
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 13:28:19 -0000
Thanks for all of your responses.
I'm looking for photos of boxcars that are 36ft long or less, double sheathed
and use the curved "Canadian Pacific" lettering like the old CDS lettering
sets - HO-6 CP 36' Wood Reefer and HO-& CP 36' Wood Box.
I am not looking for Fowler/Dominion cars (which were first built around
1912-14 I believe).
Hope this helps to clarify my request.
Richard
------------------------------
From: "Dave & Marilyn Pottinger" <pottinger@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [cpha] Re: cpha Digest V2 #9
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 09:53:47 -0500
Richard
I had a similar problem to yours, where messages from Rob
Kirkham to the cpha freelists were totally unreadable on my computer. I was
reading all the emails using the daily digest, which is what you seem to be
doing. Switch to individual emails, and I will bet that your problem will go
away, as mine did. I am sending this message directly to your email in case
you are not able to read it on cpha freelists.
Regards
Dave Pottinger
From: cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf ;
Of Richard McQuade (Redacted sender "richardmcquade" for DMARC)
Sent: Tuesday, 28 January, 2020 8:21 AM
To: cpha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cpha] Re: cpha Digest V2 #9
Hi Jeff,
As you can see below, there isn't any text here when I open this on my pc
using Windows 10. My email is icloud. However, when I opened this on my ipad
I got all of the messages. I noticed that sometimes I would get a blank
message on my pc but thought that was because it was sent automatically and
there hadn't been any messages posted the previous day. Now I see that isn't
the case. I do not know what to do about this. Sometimes the messages come up
on both devices (I assume because sometimes I get the list of messages on my
pc) but I don't check one against the other every day. (It's just a fluke
that I did so this morning.) Nonetheless, as you can see, I am not getting
these on both devices.
I wonder if other people using icloud for mail but are using a pc are having
the same problem. They might be having the same experience but haven't
checked messages from freelists every day on both of their devices.
Suggestions?
Richard
On January 28, 2020 at 1:10 a.m., FreeLists Mailing List Manager
<ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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From: "Richard McQuade" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender
Subject: [cpha] Re: cpha Digest V2 #9
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 16:21:02 -0000
Hi Dave,
I'll have to wait until tomorrow before I know if I can get it via freelists.
I chose daily digest because I didn't want to get a stream of emails
throughout the day. I used to monitor the grp by checking it myself because
it was only very occasionally that a discussion was relevant to what I'm
trying to do.
I might have to do as you suggest but will see if any other solution is
forthcoming before doing that.
Thanks for this.
Richard
On January 28, 2020 at 9:54 a.m., Dave & Marilyn Pottinger
<pottinger@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Richard
I had a similar problem to yours, where messages from Rob
Kirkham to the cpha freelists were totally unreadable on my computer. I was
reading all the emails using the daily digest, which is what you seem to be
doing. Switch to individual emails, and I will bet that your problem will go
away, as mine did. I am sending this message directly to your email in case
you are not able to read it on cpha freelists.
Regards
Dave Pottinger
From: cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf ;
Of Richard McQuade (Redacted sender "richardmcquade" for DMARC)
Sent: Tuesday, 28 January, 2020 8:21 AM
To: cpha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cpha] Re: cpha Digest V2 #9
Hi Jeff,
As you can see below, there isn't any text here when I open this on my pc
using Windows 10. My email is icloud. However, when I opened this on my ipad
I got all of the messages. I noticed that sometimes I would get a blank
message on my pc but thought that was because it was sent automatically and
there hadn't been any messages posted the previous day. Now I see that isn't
the case. I do not know what to do about this. Sometimes the messages come up
on both devices (I assume because sometimes I get the list of messages on my
pc) but I don't check one against the other every day. (It's just a fluke
that I did so this morning.) Nonetheless, as you can see, I am not getting
these on both devices.
I wonder if other people using icloud for mail but are using a pc are having
the same problem. They might be having the same experience but haven't
checked messages from freelists every day on both of their devices.
Suggestions?
Richard
On January 28, 2020 at 1:10 a.m., FreeLists Mailing List Manager
<ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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From: "Jeff Pinchbeck" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender
Subject: [cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 17:58:36 -0500
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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=20
Builder photos of 36=E2=80=99 cars. One with truss rods and the other =
with steel underframe. =20
=20
Jeff
=20
=20
=20
From: cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
Behalf Of Richard McQuade (Redacted sender "richardmcquade" for DMARC)
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 8:06 PM
To: cpha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cpha] early 20th century boxcars
=20
I'm looking for some photos showing early 20th century CPR boxcars, =
specifically 36' or shorter, double sheathed with the semi-circular =
"CANADIAN PACIFIC' lettering.
I recall a photo sometime ago that showed Vancouver harbour with a line =
of CP boxcars and I think there were a few in that but I can't recall if =
that photo was from Vancouver Archives or elsewhere. I would appreciate =
the link to that as well if somebody could send that to me.
Thanks.
Richard
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 18:07:28 -0500 (EST)
From: pbsmith@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
Jeff,
Thanks for digging up these photos of these vintage boxcars.
I was noticing that these cars only have grab irons and stirrup steps on one
end of the car. Presumably on the "B" end to access the handbrake. Also
notice the slotted knuckle which is useful when coupling with link-and-pin
couplers. Interesting.
Do you know the build date on these cars? Just curious.
Paul Smith
Winnipeg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Pinchbeck" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: cpha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 4:58:36 PM
Subject: [cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
Builder photos of 36’ cars. One with truss rods and the other with steel
underframe.
Jeff
From: cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf ;
Of Richard McQuade (Redacted sender "richardmcquade" for DMARC)
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 8:06 PM
To: cpha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cpha] early 20th century boxcars
I'm looking for some photos showing early 20th century CPR boxcars,
specifically 36' or shorter, double sheathed with the semi-circular "CANADIAN
PACIFIC' lettering.
I recall a photo sometime ago that showed Vancouver harbour with a line of CP
boxcars and I think there were a few in that but I can't recall if that photo
was from Vancouver Archives or elsewhere. I would appreciate the link to that
as well if somebody could send that to me.
Thanks.
Richard
------------------------------
From: "Jeff Pinchbeck" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender
Subject: [cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 18:56:37 -0500
I’ve just been told that these 2 cars were steel frame cars, not steel
underframe as I stated. #52914 was built 1906. Car number 100002 built in
1908 was an Dominion car done double sheathed as an experiment .
Jeff
From: cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf ;
Of pbsmith@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 6:07 PM
To: cpha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
Jeff,
Thanks for digging up these photos of these vintage boxcars.
I was noticing that these cars only have grab irons and stirrup steps on one
end of the car. Presumably on the "B" end to access the handbrake. Also
notice the slotted knuckle which is useful when coupling with link-and-pin
couplers. Interesting.
Do you know the build date on these cars? Just curious.
Paul Smith
Winnipeg
_____
From: "Jeff Pinchbeck" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: cpha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 4:58:36 PM
Subject: [cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
Builder photos of 36’ cars. One with truss rods and the other with steel
underframe.
Jeff
From: cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf ;
Of Richard McQuade (Redacted sender "richardmcquade" for DMARC)
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 8:06 PM
To: cpha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cpha] early 20th century boxcars
I'm looking for some photos showing early 20th century CPR boxcars,
specifically 36' or shorter, double sheathed with the semi-circular "CANADIAN
PACIFIC' lettering.
I recall a photo sometime ago that showed Vancouver harbour with a line of CP
boxcars and I think there were a few in that but I can't recall if that photo
was from Vancouver Archives or elsewhere. I would appreciate the link to that
as well if somebody could send that to me.
Thanks.
Richard
------------------------------
Subject: [cpha] Re: Last February CP train crash to be covered by CBC
From: Colin and Colleen Jack <c.c.s.jack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 20:01:23 -0400
Specifically the link is
https://gem.cbc.ca/media/the-fifth-estate/season-45/episode-22/38e815a-0123c26f64a
Colin
On 2020-01-25 6:29 p.m., G Burridge wrote:
At 25/01/2020 05:09 PM (), you wrote:
I'm interested but I'm in the States. Might it be availible online
after broadcast?
Episodes are put on-line.
CBC /The FIfth Estate/:
<https://gem.cbc.ca/season/the-fifth-estate/season-45/62c6fe78-5f07-4312-9719-0cc43f1a5940
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Gerry Burridge - PO Box 152 - Pte.Claire-Dorval, Que. - H9R 4N9
"Labour is prior to, and independent of capital. Capital is only the
fruit of labour,
and could never have existed if Labour had not first existed. Labour
is superior
to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --- Abraham
Lincoln
=========================================================
------------------------------
From: Jon <jon.makar@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 19:25:13 -0500
The truss rods are visible on 52914, so it’s not likely to be a steel under
frame.
Jon
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 28, 2020, at 6:56 PM, Jeff Pinchbeck (Redacted sender jpinchbeck for
DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I’ve just been told that these 2 cars were steel frame cars, not steel
underframe as I stated. #52914 was built 1906. Car number 100002 built in
1908 was an Dominion car done double sheathed as an experiment .
Jeff
From: cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf ;
Of pbsmith@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 6:07 PM
To: cpha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
Jeff,
Thanks for digging up these photos of these vintage boxcars.
I was noticing that these cars only have grab irons and stirrup steps on one
end of the car. Presumably on the "B" end to access the handbrake. Also
notice the slotted knuckle which is useful when coupling with link-and-pin
couplers. Interesting.
Do you know the build date on these cars? Just curious.
Paul Smith
Winnipeg
From: "Jeff Pinchbeck" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: cpha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 4:58:36 PM
Subject: [cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
Builder photos of 36’ cars. One with truss rods and the other with steel
underframe.
Jeff
From: cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf ;
Of Richard McQuade (Redacted sender "richardmcquade" for DMARC)
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 8:06 PM
To: cpha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cpha] early 20th century boxcars
I'm looking for some photos showing early 20th century CPR boxcars,
specifically 36' or shorter, double sheathed with the semi-circular
"CANADIAN PACIFIC' lettering.
I recall a photo sometime ago that showed Vancouver harbour with a line of
CP boxcars and I think there were a few in that but I can't recall if that
photo was from Vancouver Archives or elsewhere. I would appreciate the link
to that as well if somebody could send that to me.
Thanks.
Richard
------------------------------
From: "Jeff Pinchbeck" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender
Subject: [cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 21:51:02 -0500
Yeah, on second look 52914 is likely a wood underframe car.
jeff
From: cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpha-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf ;
Of Jon
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:25 PM
To: cpha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cpha] Re: early 20th century boxcars
The truss rods are visible on 52914, so it’s not likely to be a steel under
frame.
Jon
Sent from my iPhone
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End of cpha Digest V2 #10
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