Paul;
I have heard that same rumour, however rumours are a dime a dozen we all
know that SIGH. The Burlington Zephyr set is actually The California Zephyr
set, not trying to nitpick. This train was probably the closest thing that
the U.S. had compared to The Canadian. I agree that the CZ cars are
spectacular I own two Dome Observations already.
Cheers,
Ian
Ville de Quebec, QC
Original Message:
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From: Paul Smith pbsmith@xxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 08:44:50 -0500
To: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: [cpsig] HO Intermountain CPR FP7 and F7B
Adam,
I heard a RUMOUR that Broadway Limited might be doing a CP Canadian set
with the proper CP cars. They are allready doing a Burlington Zephyr set.
The cars (CB&Q) are quite expensive but in my opinion they are the next
best thing to brass cars. Very nice indeed. Great detail and a great
paint job.
Paul Smith
Winnipeg
----- Original Message -----
From: ADAM MEEKS
To: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: [cpsig] HO Intermountain CPR FP7 and F7B
>>>Walthers is coming out with the "Empire Builder" train in HO, from the
looks
of it it is extremely accurate from locomotives to observation but at what
price? $460.00 US dollars will buy 10 cars and $369.00 for an F7A+B unit
in
DCC. However these units are very accurate. So how many do you think will
be
sold in Canada?
Hmmm. They have done the Super Chief and now the Empire Builder; I wonder
if they would be open to doing The Canadian? May be an opportunity to make
our voices heard....
Adam Meeks
Calgary, AB
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Brownfield <kbtrain@xxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:29 pm
Subject: RE: RE: RE: [cpsig] HO Intermountain CPR FP7 and F7B
> Well said Jeff,
> EMD made many F7 units and many were not the same although they
> looked the
> same. GPS were also in this all units look alike. The railroads
> that bought
> the units made changes to them to fit there type of
> railroading.Some units
> had dynamic braking while those in the flat lands did not. Bells,
> whistlesand other outside plumbing was added to enhance the
> performance of the
> units. The huge winterization hatches on the CP units never
> appeared on it's
> US counterpart that I know of, so a manufacture would have to make a
> different die or a part to add on for the CP units. Good brass
> ones are sold
> in Canada as I have bought a few.
> Railroads did what they wanted; example "Rock Island", they went
> throughpaint screams like the paint was free. Trying to model that
> road is a real
> headache, think what a manufacture would have to do to make
> accurate models.
>
> Walthers is coming out with the "Empire Builder" train in HO, from
> the looks
> of it it is extremely accurate from locomotives to observation but
> at what
> price? $460.00 US dollars will buy 10 cars and $369.00 for an
> F7A+B unit in
> DCC. However these units are very accurate. So how many do you
> think will be
> sold in Canada?
>
> Just something to chew on.
> Keith
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of
> Jeff Pinchbeck
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 6:42 PM
> To: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: RE: RE: [cpsig] HO Intermountain CPR FP7 and F7B
>
>
>
> Given the quality of CP TRACKS CPSIG is in an equally good
> position to assume this role. But if we aren't going to
> be proactive in approaching manufacturers as our CN counterparts
>
> The CP SIG has in fact helped a number of manufactures. We have
> a nice
> little handful of projects we're working on right now.
> Occasionally we
> have
> even gone a far as volunteering for projects when we hear about
> them in a
> timely manner.
>
> Why don't we advertise the fact we do this service? Well because
> in some
> instances we are bound by non-disclosure agreement. In some
> instances it's
> just because these things happen very quickly and the mad dash
> to find
> materials within production time lines is more important that
> tooting our
> whistle.
>
> However, I can say that each manufacture has their own targeted
> marketplace
> - price point, requirements for model details and authenticity.
> It is
> rather obvious when you see product lines like Athern and their
> Genesis line. LifeLike and the Proto series and Overland's
> Tower55 line that the
> market place has become tiered. And that's a great development.
>
> Anyway, don't expect great fidelity from the lower tier
> offerings, for
> example. A manufacture typically will do no more than what would be
> expected in the targeted market segment plus factor in what
> their existing
> produce line looks like - incremental improvement rather than
> revolutionary.
> Older produces retooled when patterns become worn out or out
> dated by
> current standards. Ie. Athern's recent retooling effort.
>
> Then there are, of course, the other error factors that creep in
> the model
> production like the research material is in error or the
> specimen is
> unusual
> to the rest of the fleet, production compromises and lastly Engrish
> translation issues! Man, got to love that Engrish!
> http://www.engrish.com
> Be aware that all manufactures are targeting a specific spot in
> the market
> place to get those modelling dollars. They are very aware that if
> something
> isn't perfect that many of you will buy detailing parts and make the
> engine
> your own. And they know that some of you don't care if the model
> is a red
> blob of plastic with CP Rail painted on it - as long as it stays
> on the
> track running at 200 smph who's complaining, right?
>
> OTOH, if you don't make your wishes known they will continue to
> do what
> they
> do because they can only go by their own feel for the market
> place. So
> provide feed back, comments and don't forget to complain when
> you are
> disappointed. And please remind them they should have contacted the
> Canadian Pacific Historical Association. (previously.. CP SIG)
> so they get
> it right next time.
>
> That's my .02 cents worth.
>
> Jeff Pinchbeck
>
> CPHA, Vice Chairman
>
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