My apologies to some but Don shanghied this thread to the other list
and, as not all are members on the C-P-R, I thought it best to return
it here. Thanks for shedding light on the subject Don!
Regards,
Rainer Auer,
Morinville, AB
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From: "Donald_Scott" <donald_scott@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <C-P-R@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: [C-P-R] B# 716-Spans The World Logo
Hi Joe:troops
Thanks for your followup re CPA part of the familiarization flights with
their technical people, flight crews, out of Shanghai, the Communist
were attacking the airport, The leased RCAF North Star(military version)are
transport made a run for it taking off presume back to Hong Kong. There
some great stories in some of the CPA former archives and writings of theRegarding
airline in its earlier days. Hope I answered your query correctly.
those CP box cars with Spans The World on passenger trains; I neverobserved
them doing so, all the years living in Eastern Canada.in
Don Scott-Coquitlam, B.C.
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From: KVRailway <kvrailway@xxxxxxx>
To: c-p-r@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <c-p-r@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: May 13, 2003 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [C-P-R] B# 716-Spans The World Logo
Don:sentence about technical people just scattered down the runway at takeoff
An interesting account, but I don't quite follow the wording of your
Shanghai. Could you please clarify the story a bit?"Spans
Joe Smuin
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald_Scott
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Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 4:55 AM
Subject: [C-P-R] B# 716-Spans The World Logo
Answering Rainer Auer's questions regarding CPR Box cars sporting
The World" logo. One could observe them on freights. I could be wrong thewithout
only part of the railway system seen in passenger service was in Western
Canada especially from photo's I've seen on the "Kettle Valley" passenger
trains. observing the box cars with this logo was a common sight on
freights-looked smart.
I don't ever remember the logo with just the locomotive and ship
the airliner. I will have to go through some of my collection to verifythree
it-I'm sure locomotive-ship-airliner was always on the logo.
looked like a 2800 series 4-6-4 "Royal Hudson". The passenger liner a
When the "Spans The World" came out, showing the steam locomotive, it
stacker represented the 26,500 ton "Empress of Scotland" the 2ndre-assigned
to Trans-Atlantic and cruise service. The liner was the formerTrans-Pacific
"Empress of Japan"(2nd). The "Scotland" re-entered peace-time service inthe
1950, after an extensive refit after being a trooper during WW#2.
Later CPA commenced their two new Trans-Pacific air routes from
The airliner at first on the logo was a Canadian Pacific Airlines DC-3.
Vancouver-Tokyo-Hong Kong-Shanghai on mainland China was dropped due to
revolution. The year being 1949. Besides the other route on the SouthCPA
Pacific from Vancouver via San Francisco(technical stop only-on traffic
rights) then onto Honolulu-Canton Island-Fiji-Auckland and Sydney,
Australia. The "Spans The World" logo was modified to show a four-engined
"Canadair-Four CP "Empress of The Air" airliner. The modified logo with a
four-engined CPA "Empress" never appeared on the box cars-just for CP(All
Services) advertising.
Vancouver in 1949 while the new Canadair-Four CP Empresses were being
During the set-up stages for CPA's two new Trans-Pacific routes from
constructed by Canadair of Montreal. CP leased a Canadair-Four(North Star)
from the RCAF to use on familiarization flights and training. One flight
with CPA technical people just scattered down the runway at Shanghai on
takeoff when Red Troops arived to take over the airport and facilities.
commenced the new Pacific routes with four "Empresses" "Empress of
Vancouver", "Empress of Hong Kong", "Empress of Auckland" and the "Empress
of Sydney".
Thanks for listening.
Don Scott-Coquitlam, B.C.
"Following Canadian Pacific(All Services) Since-1935".
