Good evening everyone,
I can very much understand the concern of any views being presented when there
has not been the chance to consult as fully as possible with the community, and
especially on Planning and Licensing Applications when there can be so many
coming through at a time.
It can be especially challenging when the consultation deadlines come out after
one meeting of the Community Council and finish before the next meeting of the
Community Council without having the chance to discuss in person.
It is important that all views are taken into account in what we as a Community
Council do a with and for our community, and to do so while consulting and
engaging with our community.
It is for that reason that each draft of the consultation response does not
state 'Approval' or 'Objection' and instead only includes only previous views
that have come forward from the community and states that we have not been able
to consult with the community because of the timing.
It is also very important that we are able to discuss and debate what those
recommendations should be as we have here, sometimes not to stop developments
that may be wished for but instead to make sure that the community is protected
and taken into account as fully as possible when these decisions are made by
the Council, Planning Team, Licensing Board and any other body.
If you would still like to include anything into the responses Pauline,
Julie-Anne, Stephanie, William or any one else we should still have enough time
before the 26th / 28th, and can agree on what and how it should be said before
then.
Sincerely,
Jonathan
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From: Julie-Anne Butchart <juliebutchartcc@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 15 February 2018 10:59
To: Smith, Jonathan Aitken
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Subject: RE: Community Council - Licensing Application Responses (February,
2018)
Im not convinced that this is going to be as big an issue as is thought of, the
tourists tend to come in then leave, I very much doubt they would stay till 1am.
As a parent I feel the park is far enough away from the silver darling to not
pose a massive threat. Just look at the play park beside the hilton treetop
hotel and the beach ballroom which both cater to drinking, codonas across the
road also cater to drinking. None of the though issues are happening, though I
do realise there is a small difference it's still the same circumstance.
I do hope that all considerations are taken into account when looking into the
Darling and its application to bring it to the same standards as the majority
of Aberdeen which is even more densely populated than fittie and still deals
with drunks, tourists and play parks.
I also hope that if you are to put in the changes that you add it is a personal
opinion and is not referenced to the entire community, which while this
directly affects fittie is still within the rest of the community council.
Julie-Anne
On 15 Feb 2018 09:02, "Smith, Jonathan Aitken"
<j.a.smith.08@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:j.a.smith.08@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Good morning Pauline,
Certainly, that would be very welcome if you would like to include some
additional points and recommendations to the drafts.
Especially from the perspectives and insight you have described of the
experience of residents in the community around the Silver Darling, and work
with the City Council and others toward addressing current issues and mitgating
future impact.
We should have up until the 26th / 28th available for consultation responses,
both from ourselves as Community Council as well as any other groups or
residents who would like to express their views.
If there is the chance to include the additional information and amendments
before then, that will hopefully allow us time to consider and approve the
responses we would like to send in as Community Council.
Thank you again,
Sincerely,
Jonathan
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Subject: [cpcc-committee] Re: Community Council - Licensing Application
Responses (February, 2018)
Good morning,
Thanks for this, Jonathan,
May I suggest that I download and amend/add a little to your draft response to
Silver Darling application?
As I have been working with ACC under the auspices of CPCC to try and offset
problems caused by overtourism -pre Silver Darling application-I can comment on
how this extension will exacerbate the situation. Tourists and all day
drinking next to a children's play park and residential area do not mix.
If agreed, I'll try and turn this round quickly. Please let me know.
Sorry I can't canvass the village personally.
Kind Regards,
Pauline
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Subject: [cpcc-committee] Community Council - Licensing Application Responses
(February, 2018)
Good evening everyone,
Earlier this week, William shared with members of the Community Council a
notification of 2 upcoming Licensing Applications, in addition to Planning
Applications.
The First Application was for Henry's Bar, with information available at this
website link:
https://www.tellmescotland.gov.uk/notices/aberdeen-city/licensing/00000167744
The Second Application was for the Silver Darling at Pocra Quar, with
information available at:
https://www.tellmescotland.gov.uk/notices/aberdeen-city/licensing/00000167745
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First Application - Henry's Bar
Please find attached a draft consultation response for the Henry's Bar
application.
The response suggested is based on discussion on previous meetings of the
Community Council, as well as current research and views and experiences shared
by those in the community over previous months.
Second Application - Silver Darling, Pocra Quay
Please also find attached a draft consultation response for the Silver Darling
application.
For this application, it has also been suggested that we encourage further
responses from those in the community, and in particular from those who live
within the Fittie area as residents there are most likely to experience the
most of any potential impact as a result.
As part of this, we could also promote the License Applications and opportunity
for those in the community to respond on the Facebook Page for the Community
Council.
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If anyone has any suggestions, recommendations, amendments or indeed any other
views that would be helpful to include, you are very welcome to let us know.
This will hopefully mean that we have enough time to consider the response
before the next meeting, as the consultations ares scheduled to close before
then.
Sincerely,
Jonathan
Jonathan Aitken McLeod Smith
Castlehill and Pittodrie Community Council
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