Hi Fung and Ellen and others,
Many thanks for sharing your experiences of being male and female, and for the
valuable insights into Yin and Yang and Chinese culture. It is also my
experience that this moving from left to right brain within, is often
manifested as moving from comfort to discomfort and back again. Each time we
move we seem to win and lose something. Valuing these gains and losses, in
exploration of these polarities within, is so enriching. I share your
celebration and recognition that you are both. Ellen I like the way you say “we
are at the threshold of a new evolutionary stage.” It reminds me of Bert when
he says:
“THE PLAYERS
They greet each other as opponents.
Then they sit opposite each other
And play together
On one board
With a variety of pieces
Following complex ancient rules.
Move by move,
The same old royal game.
To their game both sacrifice
A range of pieces
And tensely hold each other in check
Until the movement is completed.
When nothing further can be done
The game is over,
Then they change sides
And colors,
And of the same old game
Another match begins again.
But those who play for a long time
And win a lot,
And lose a lot,
They gain mastery
On both sides.”
Taken From “Rising In love” P 29 Bert Hellinger
I am so grateful to play on this stage with so many passionate friends
worldwide. Many thanks to Chris for initiating the stage and thanks for playing
with me.
Luv Sadhana
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Subject: 回覆: Re: [ConstellationTalk] Re: Woman follows man, man serves woman
Hi, Sadhana,
As a Chinese, I'd like to share something on Yin and Yan. Yin and Yang is an
attempt by Chinese to create a holographic systems model to describe energy at
work in universe at multiple levels. Our body is a system of Yin and Yang
energy, imbalance is the key to illness. Man and woman is a system Yin and Yan
energy, imbalance is the key to disputes and problems. By the same token, the
universe is a system of Yin and Yang such that even when you choose a place to
live, one needs to look at the energy of a particular geographic location
whether it is energetically balanced (i.e. we call it Fungshui - wind and water
conditions)
In constellations, we also look at what Yin (feminine) energy and Yang
(maculine) energy are working. Today I just did a constellation on this issue:
A young lady wanted to improve her relationship with her parents. She picked up
her father and mother, and a male to represent herself. In response, I proposed
to her to choose an additional lady to represent her female part. Firstly, her
male representative just looked to her father, her female part representative
behaved the same as her mother. Then her female part wanted to get close to
mother. But the male part blocked her. After that, the female part bypassed her
male part to move towards mother, and both male part and father moved away.
Interestingly enough, I put in another representative to represent the soul of
Chinese female. This representative moved herself and brought male part and
father back. Four people, father, mother, male part and female part gathered in
a circle and hold each other (burst in tears). The soul of Chinese female
standed at outside as a guardian. I further brought in another representative
for the soul Chinese male. This representative moved to the circle and in the
posture to protect female part and mother, especially. The constellation showed
a complete peace at this point. I thought it may stop at this moment.
However, the male part spontaneously moved away in a relaxed and happy state,
outside the participant sitting cirlce. The female part standed in front of her
parents, and behind parents standed the soul of Chinese male and female soul,
in a perfect triangle, all in a self initiated movement. And the female part
was able to say a sentence to her parents: "I allow myself to be a girl, now."
This case seems to illustrate some particular properties of Yin and Yang:
1. There's no superiority of either energy.
2. What bring Yang energy is through Yin energy, and what protect Yin energy is
Yang.
3. Two energy are bipolar distinguished and sterotyped, but yet there are also
unity and complementary.
4. As a girl pressing down female energy, male energy may become a blockage to
the source of female energy as well. Ignoring male energy also doesn't come up
with a good outcome. Accepting both male and female energy together, on the
other hand, a person can really own her or his own gender energy as strength.
These seem to be revealed by constellation itself and it fits the description
of Yin and Yang model.
I can only say that Yin and Yang model seems to work inside Chinese culture. I
don't know, but of course I hope it also describe common experience of other
cultures, or perhaps of humanity.
Regards
Fung
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Hi Chris,
I liked your story of the Baboons, I also long for such bovarian bliss in male,
female relationships.
Chris, in a way I perceive you are right when you say the Chinese people are
influenced by the “Chinese idea of yin and yang;” however it is not in the way
that you think.
Firstly I don’t think that yin and yang is “Chinese” or an “idea”. They are in
my understandings existential realities that fuel soul movement in nature
itself. It is strange for me to hear it referred to as an “idea”. It doesn’t
quite hold the reverence, respect and dignity imbibed in the movements of these
people, experiencing FC. I am also aware that my perception is a consequence of
looking and listening from the right brain (feminine) of the lady baboon that
resides deep in the habitat of my underworld.
This lady baboon observes that left brain masculine interpretations that
perceive through ideas and logic are in grave danger of creating “gender
stereotypes”. Where live energy states and experiences are being interpreted as
ideas, the mirage of “individual differences” draws the thirsty to death. Hence
the importance of a language that serves the feminine, facilitating soul to
move forward.
Would be nice to hear some comments from our Chinese friends about the “idea of
yin and yang” and how this affects their flowering in consciousness.
Kind regards and luv to all Sadhana
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Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 11:16:46 PM
Subject: [ConstellationTalk] Re: Woman follows man, man serves woman
Thanks for this David,
I must say I like your way of talking about female and male energy. Perhaps
that is influenced by the Chinese idea of yin and yang. It allows for the
possibility of individual differences without being hamstrung by gender
stereotypes.
Your observations remind me of a nature documentary on Baboons.
The group of baboons was crossing the savannah. The group included the male
with his majestic mane, his harem of several females and a number of children.
The females and children were sauntering along happily and playfully
interacting with each other. Meanwhile the male was vigilantly scanning the
environment for dangerous predators such as lions. He could only relax when the
group was in a truly safe place. Then the rest would look after him. This seems
to be similar to your observation of male energy looking out and dealing with
the environment and female energy looking in and nurturing.
hasta la vista
Chris Walsh
806 Lygon St Carlton 3054
(Melbourne, Australia)
ph: +61 (0)3 9347 4300
fax: +61 (0)3 9347 4355
web: www.cwalsh.com. au
--- In ConstellationTalk@ yahoogroups. com, david@... wrote:
Hi,
This is one of Bert Hellinger's statements that has always interested
me. As he would say it's an observation from Constellations.
Hunter Beaumont has written about it too, and others. I have been
holding a short series of workshops in China, which I find a privelege
for a 'westerner'to be able to work with such a different culture to
my own. Of coursethere are cultural similarities as well, and many an
hour can be spent
discussing these.
Recently I had so many cases in workshop and private settings of women
struggling to be at peace with their womanhood. Very touching cases
where women had lost something along the way due to some Systemic
entanglement. The Constellation space was such a powerful gift to help
them regain a sense of fuller femininity.
I do many little exercises in my workshops, recently I almost went a full day
without doing a case, it was quite surprising. So I have started to
use a little exercise to explore Masculine and Feminine energy. I go
round the circle and give people a letter, A then B then A and B and
so on. The A's are the feminine energy. The B's the masculine,
irrespective of the gender of the participant.
I tell the group that I give the feminine the A because we are all
born of a woman. Then I let the group move with their body. The first
time I did this in Beijing, the exercise was so chaotic in the room,
it seemed there were no patterns. But we started to ask if anyone
wanted to share anything.
Then the patterns revealed themselves. The male energy often looked up
and sometimes out. The female energy often looked to the floor. We
digested this, and then a bit more came out. Six people said there
were following someone else, and five of them were feminine energy.
And a little bit more. There was one male energy that followed a
feminine. The feminine was spinning on the spot. The participant, a
woman in fact, said she followed the feminine energy until it stopped
spinning, and then she stopped following the feminine.
We were quite amazed at this, and for the participants we started to
make sense of this in terms of Hellinger and other male and female
ideas. Maleness as the protector, looking for danger or animals, the
female energy tending for the children and looking down. Some of the
participants offered similar ideas. It seemed to fit. It also helps
me understand why male energy stands in first place in the family
constellation, on the edge of the family, easier to look out etc.
Then, later we held some organisational workshops on this trip, and
still also Constellations is such a good space to explore these
dynamics and leadership. The Constellation space helps people
understand the positions and attitudes of leadership, in their own
contexts, but there are always shared themes as well. Now we add these
gendered ideas. Often in Constellations re couples working together,
it ends with the man being the leader, or the person with the
strongest male energy being the leader, which seems to be more
accurate, for example, in the case of two women working together.
Then we tried an exercise, the male energy looks out, the female more
looks in, if they go with their bodies the male energy looks out of
the window sometimes and the female energy sits on the floor. Now we
ask the basic question we use in Organisational and Management
workshops to explore leadership issues: "Follow me". The female energy
sitting on the floor responds to the male energy by the window
positively and her body is drawn away from the floor towards the
maleness. But if we reverse this and ask the female energy to say this
the male energy is perplexed, "to where?". If the 'where" is into the
home where the female energy seems to be, it seems to lack a sense of
direction.
So these ideas and exercises are useful for disseminating the various
roles and tasks in organisations as well. I think it adds a useful
dimension to help us explore.
I think the exitement of exercises in the Constellation space is that
you never know the outcome, and if you can quell your expectantions
and intentions, something rich may emerge.
Any way, these are not rules, just noticings! Of course.
Alll the best.....David Mathes, Guangzhou and Sydney
Hi,
This is one of Bert Hellinger's statements that has always interested
me. As he would say it's an observation from Constellations.
Hunter Beaumont has written about it too, and others. I have been
holding a short series of workshops in China, which I find a privelege
for a 'westerner'to be able to work with such a different culture to
my own. Of coursethere are cultural similarities as well, and many an
hour can be spent
discussing these.
Recently I had so many cases in workshop and private settings of women
struggling to be at peace with their womanhood. Very touching cases
where women had lost something along the way due to some Systemic
entanglement. The Constellation space was such a powerful gift to help
them regain a sense of fuller femininity.
I do many little exercises in my workshops, recently I almost went a full day
without doing a case, it was quite surprising. So I have started to
use a little exercise to explore Masculine and Feminine energy. I go
round the circle and give people a letter, A then B then A and B and
so on. The A's are the feminine energy. The B's the masculine,
irrespective of the gender of the participant.
I tell the group that I give the feminine the A because we are all
born of a woman. Then I let the group move with their body. The first
time I did this in Beijing, the exercise was so chaotic in the room,
it seemed there were no patterns. But we started to ask if anyone
wanted to share anything.
Then the patterns revealed themselves. The male energy often looked up
and sometimes out. The female energy often looked to the floor. We
digested this, and then a bit more came out. Six people said there
were following someone else, and five of them were feminine energy.
And a little bit more. There was one male energy that followed a
feminine. The feminine was spinning on the spot. The participant, a
woman in fact, said she followed the feminine energy until it stopped
spinning, and then she stopped following the feminine.
We were quite amazed at this, and for the participants we started to
make sense of this in terms of Hellinger and other male and female
ideas. Maleness as the protector, looking for danger or animals, the
female energy tending for the children and looking down. Some of the
participants offered similar ideas. It seemed to fit. It also helps
me understand why male energy stands in first place in the family
constellation, on the edge of the family, easier to look out etc.
Then, later we held some organisational workshops on this trip, and
still also Constellations is such a good space to explore these
dynamics and leadership. The Constellation space helps people
understand the positions and attitudes of leadership, in their own
contexts, but there are always shared themes as well. Now we add these
gendered ideas. Often in Constellations re couples working together,
it ends with the man being the leader, or the person with the
strongest male energy being the leader, which seems to be more
accurate, for example, in the case of two women working together.
Then we tried an exercise, the male energy looks out, the female more
looks in, if they go with their bodies the male energy looks out of
the window sometimes and the female energy sits on the floor. Now we
ask the basic question we use in Organisational and Management
workshops to explore leadership issues: "Follow me". The female energy
sitting on the floor responds to the male energy by the window
positively and her body is drawn away from the floor towards the
maleness. But if we reverse this and ask the female energy to say this
the male energy is perplexed, "to where?". If the 'where" is into the
home where the female energy seems to be, it seems to lack a sense of
direction.
So these ideas and exercises are useful for disseminating the various
roles and tasks in organisations as well. I think it adds a useful
dimension to help us explore.
I think the exitement of exercises in the Constellation space is that
you never know the outcome, and if you can quell your expectantions
and intentions, something rich may emerge.
Any way, these are not rules, just noticings! Of course.
Alll the best.....David Mathes, Guangzhou and Sydney
Hi,
This is one of Bert Hellinger's statements that has always interested
me. As he would say it's an observation from Constellations.
Hunter Beaumont has written about it too, and others. I have been
holding a short series of workshops in China, which I find a privelege
for a 'westerner'to be able to work with such a different culture to
my own. Of coursethere are cultural similarities as well, and many an
hour can be spent
discussing these.
Recently I had so many cases in workshop and private settings of women
struggling to be at peace with their womanhood. Very touching cases
where women had lost something along the way due to some Systemic
entanglement. The Constellation space was such a powerful gift to help
them regain a sense of fuller femininity.
I do many little exercises in my workshops, recently I almost went a full day
without doing a case, it was quite surprising. So I have started to
use a little exercise to explore Masculine and Feminine energy. I go
round the circle and give people a letter, A then B then A and B and
so on. The A's are the feminine energy. The B's the masculine,
irrespective of the gender of the participant.
I tell the group that I give the feminine the A because we are all
born of a woman. Then I let the group move with their body. The first
time I did this in Beijing, the exercise was so chaotic in the room,
it seemed there were no patterns. But we started to ask if anyone
wanted to share anything.
Then the patterns revealed themselves. The male energy often looked up
and sometimes out. The female energy often looked to the floor. We
digested this, and then a bit more came out. Six people said there
were following someone else, and five of them were feminine energy.
And a little bit more. There was one male energy that followed a
feminine. The feminine was spinning on the spot. The participant, a
woman in fact, said she followed the feminine energy until it stopped
spinning, and then she stopped following the feminine.
We were quite amazed at this, and for the participants we started to
make sense of this in terms of Hellinger and other male and female
ideas. Maleness as the protector, looking for danger or animals, the
female energy tending for the children and looking down. Some of the
participants offered similar ideas. It seemed to fit. It also helps
me understand why male energy stands in first place in the family
constellation, on the edge of the family, easier to look out etc.
Then, later we held some organisational workshops on this trip, and
still also Constellations is such a good space to explore these
dynamics and leadership. The Constellation space helps people
understand the positions and attitudes of leadership, in their own
contexts, but there are always shared themes as well. Now we add these
gendered ideas. Often in Constellations re couples working together,
it ends with the man being the leader, or the person with the
strongest male energy being the leader, which seems to be more
accurate, for example, in the case of two women working together.
Then we tried an exercise, the male energy looks out, the female more
looks in, if they go with their bodies the male energy looks out of
the window sometimes and the female energy sits on the floor. Now we
ask the basic question we use in Organisational and Management
workshops to explore leadership issues: "Follow me". The female energy
sitting on the floor responds to the male energy by the window
positively and her body is drawn away from the floor towards the
maleness. But if we reverse this and ask the female energy to say this
the male energy is perplexed, "to where?". If the 'where" is into the
home where the female energy seems to be, it seems to lack a sense of
direction.
So these ideas and exercises are useful for disseminating the various
roles and tasks in organisations as well. I think it adds a useful
dimension to help us explore.
I think the exitement of exercises in the Constellation space is that
you never know the outcome, and if you can quell your expectantions
and intentions, something rich may emerge.
Any way, these are not rules, just noticings! Of course.
Alll the best.....David Mathes, Guangzhou and Sydney
Hi,
This is one of Bert Hellinger's statements that has always interested
me. As he would say it's an observation from Constellations.
Hunter Beaumont has written about it too, and others. I have been
holding a short series of workshops in China, which I find a privelege
for a 'westerner'to be able to work with such a different culture to
my own. Of coursethere are cultural similarities as well, and many an
hour can be spent
discussing these.
Recently I had so many cases in workshop and private settings of women
struggling to be at peace with their womanhood. Very touching cases
where women had lost something along the way due to some Systemic
entanglement. The Constellation space was such a powerful gift to help
them regain a sense of fuller femininity.
I do many little exercises in my workshops, recently I almost went a full day
without doing a case, it was quite surprising. So I have started to
use a little exercise to explore Masculine and Feminine energy. I go
round the circle and give people a letter, A then B then A and B and
so on. The A's are the feminine energy. The B's the masculine,
irrespective of the gender of the participant.
I tell the group that I give the feminine the A because we are all
born of a woman. Then I let the group move with their body. The first
time I did this in Beijing, the exercise was so chaotic in the room,
it seemed there were no patterns. But we started to ask if anyone
wanted to share anything.
Then the patterns revealed themselves. The male energy often looked up
and sometimes out. The female energy often looked to the floor. We
digested this, and then a bit more came out. Six people said there
were following someone else, and five of them were feminine energy.
And a little bit more. There was one male energy that followed a
feminine. The feminine was spinning on the spot. The participant, a
woman in fact, said she followed the feminine energy until it stopped
spinning, and then she stopped following the feminine.
We were quite amazed at this, and for the participants we started to
make sense of this in terms of Hellinger and other male and female
ideas. Maleness as the protector, looking for danger or animals, the
female energy tending for the children and looking down. Some of the
participants offered similar ideas. It seemed to fit. It also helps
me understand why male energy stands in first place in the family
constellation, on the edge of the family, easier to look out etc.
Then, later we held some organisational workshops on this trip, and
still also Constellations is such a good space to explore these
dynamics and leadership. The Constellation space helps people
understand the positions and attitudes of leadership, in their own
contexts, but there are always shared themes as well. Now we add these
gendered ideas. Often in Constellations re couples working together,
it ends with the man being the leader, or the person with the
strongest male energy being the leader, which seems to be more
accurate, for example, in the case of two women working together.
Then we tried an exercise, the male energy looks out, the female more
looks in, if they go with their bodies the male energy looks out of
the window sometimes and the female energy sits on the floor. Now we
ask the basic question we use in Organisational and Management
workshops to explore leadership issues: "Follow me". The female energy
sitting on the floor responds to the male energy by the window
positively and her body is drawn away from the floor towards the
maleness. But if we reverse this and ask the female energy to say this
the male energy is perplexed, "to where?". If the 'where" is into the
home where the female energy seems to be, it seems to lack a sense of
direction.
So these ideas and exercises are useful for disseminating the various
roles and tasks in organisations as well. I think it adds a useful
dimension to help us explore.
I think the exitement of exercises in the Constellation space is that
you never know the outcome, and if you can quell your expectantions
and intentions, something rich may emerge.
Any way, these are not rules, just noticings! Of course.
Alll the best.....David Mathes, Guangzhou and Sydney
Hi,
This is one of Bert Hellinger's statements that has always interested
me. As he would say it's an observation from Constellations.
Hunter Beaumont has written about it too, and others. I have been
holding a short series of workshops in China, which I find a privelege
for a 'westerner'to be able to work with such a different culture to
my own. Of coursethere are cultural similarities as well, and many an
hour can be spent
discussing these.
Recently I had so many cases in workshop and private settings of women
struggling to be at peace with their womanhood. Very touching cases
where women had lost something along the way due to some Systemic
entanglement. The Constellation space was such a powerful gift to help
them regain a sense of fuller femininity.
I do many little exercises in my workshops, recently I almost went a full day
without doing a case, it was quite surprising. So I have started to
use a little exercise to explore Masculine and Feminine energy. I go
round the circle and give people a letter, A then B then A and B and
so on. The A's are the feminine energy. The B's the masculine,
irrespective of the gender of the participant.
I tell the group that I give the feminine the A because we are all
born of a woman. Then I let the group move with their body. The first
time I did this in Beijing, the exercise was so chaotic in the room,
it seemed there were no patterns. But we started to ask if anyone
wanted to share anything.
Then the patterns revealed themselves. The male energy often looked up
and sometimes out. The female energy often looked to the floor. We
digested this, and then a bit more came out. Six people said there
were following someone else, and five of them were feminine energy.
And a little bit more. There was one male energy that followed a
feminine. The feminine was spinning on the spot. The participant, a
woman in fact, said she followed the feminine energy until it stopped
spinning, and then she stopped following the feminine.
We were quite amazed at this, and for the participants we started to
make sense of this in terms of Hellinger and other male and female
ideas. Maleness as the protector, looking for danger or animals, the
female energy tending for the children and looking down. Some of the
participants offered similar ideas. It seemed to fit. It also helps
me understand why male energy stands in first place in the family
constellation, on the edge of the family, easier to look out etc.
Then, later we held some organisational workshops on this trip, and
still also Constellations is such a good space to explore these
dynamics and leadership. The Constellation space helps people
understand the positions and attitudes of leadership, in their own
contexts, but there are always shared themes as well. Now we add these
gendered ideas. Often in Constellations re couples working together,
it ends with the man being the leader, or the person with the
strongest male energy being the leader, which seems to be more
accurate, for example, in the case of two women working together.
Then we tried an exercise, the male energy looks out, the female more
looks in, if they go with their bodies the male energy looks out of
the window sometimes and the female energy sits on the floor. Now we
ask the basic question we use in Organisational and Management
workshops to explore leadership issues: "Follow me". The female energy
sitting on the floor responds to the male energy by the window
positively and her body is drawn away from the floor towards the
maleness. But if we reverse this and ask the female energy to say this
the male energy is perplexed, "to where?". If the 'where" is into the
home where the female energy seems to be, it seems to lack a sense of
direction.
So these ideas and exercises are useful for disseminating the various
roles and tasks in organisations as well. I think it adds a useful
dimension to help us explore.
I think the exitement of exercises in the Constellation space is that
you never know the outcome, and if you can quell your expectantions
and intentions, something rich may emerge.
Any way, these are not rules, just noticings! Of course.
Alll the best.....David Mathes, Guangzhou and Sydney
Hi,
This is one of Bert Hellinger's statements that has always interested
me. As he would say it's an observation from Constellations.
Hunter Beaumont has written about it too, and others. I have been
holding a short series of workshops in China, which I find a privelege
for a 'westerner'to be able to work with such a different culture to
my own. Of coursethere are cultural similarities as well, and many an
hour can be spent
discussing these.
Recently I had so many cases in workshop and private settings of women
struggling to be at peace with their womanhood. Very touching cases
where women had lost something along the way due to some Systemic
entanglement. The Constellation space was such a powerful gift to help
them regain a sense of fuller femininity.
I do many little exercises in my workshops, recently I almost went a full day
without doing a case, it was quite surprising. So I have started to
use a little exercise to explore Masculine and Feminine energy. I go
round the circle and give people a letter, A then B then A and B and
so on. The A's are the feminine energy. The B's the masculine,
irrespective of the gender of the participant.
I tell the group that I give the feminine the A because we are all
born of a woman. Then I let the group move with their body. The first
time I did this in Beijing, the exercise was so chaotic in the room,
it seemed there were no patterns. But we started to ask if anyone
wanted to share anything.
Then the patterns revealed themselves. The male energy often looked up
and sometimes out. The female energy often looked to the floor. We
digested this, and then a bit more came out. Six people said there
were following someone else, and five of them were feminine energy.
And a little bit more. There was one male energy that followed a
feminine. The feminine was spinning on the spot. The participant, a
woman in fact, said she followed the feminine energy until it stopped
spinning, and then she stopped following the feminine.
We were quite amazed at this, and for the participants we started to
make sense of this in terms of Hellinger and other male and female
ideas. Maleness as the protector, looking for danger or animals, the
female energy tending for the children and looking down. Some of the
participants offered similar ideas. It seemed to fit. It also helps
me understand why male energy stands in first place in the family
constellation, on the edge of the family, easier to look out etc.
Then, later we held some organisational workshops on this trip, and
still also Constellations is such a good space to explore these
dynamics and leadership. The Constellation space helps people
understand the positions and attitudes of leadership, in their own
contexts, but there are always shared themes as well. Now we add these
gendered ideas. Often in Constellations re couples working together,
it ends with the man being the leader, or the person with the
strongest male energy being the leader, which seems to be more
accurate, for example, in the case of two women working together.
Then we tried an exercise, the male energy looks out, the female more
looks in, if they go with their bodies the male energy looks out of
the window sometimes and the female energy sits on the floor. Now we
ask the basic question we use in Organisational and Management
workshops to explore leadership issues: "Follow me". The female energy
sitting on the floor responds to the male energy by the window
positively and her body is drawn away from the floor towards the
maleness. But if we reverse this and ask the female energy to say this
the male energy is perplexed, "to where?". If the 'where" is into the
home where the female energy seems to be, it seems to lack a sense of
direction.
So these ideas and exercises are useful for disseminating the various
roles and tasks in organisations as well. I think it adds a useful
dimension to help us explore.
I think the exitement of exercises in the Constellation space is that
you never know the outcome, and if you can quell your expectantions
and intentions, something rich may emerge.
Any way, these are not rules, just noticings! Of course.
Alll the best.....David Mathes, Guangzhou and Sydney
Hi,
This is one of Bert Hellinger's statements that has always interested
me. As he would say it's an observation from Constellations.
Hunter Beaumont has written about it too, and others. I have been
holding a short series of workshops in China, which I find a privelege
for a 'westerner'to be able to work with such a different culture to
my own. Of coursethere are cultural similarities as well, and many an
hour can be spent
discussing these.
Recently I had so many cases in workshop and private settings of women
struggling to be at peace with their womanhood. Very touching cases
where women had lost something along the way due to some Systemic
entanglement. The Constellation space was such a powerful gift to help
them regain a sense of fuller femininity.
I do many little exercises in my workshops, recently I almost went a full day
without doing a case, it was quite surprising. So I have started to
use a little exercise to explore Masculine and Feminine energy. I go
round the circle and give people a letter, A then B then A and B and
so on. The A's are the feminine energy. The B's the masculine,
irrespective of the gender of the participant.
I tell the group that I give the feminine the A because we are all
born of a woman. Then I let the group move with their body. The first
time I did this in Beijing, the exercise was so chaotic in the room,
it seemed there were no patterns. But we started to ask if anyone
wanted to share anything.
Then the patterns revealed themselves. The male energy often looked up
and sometimes out. The female energy often looked to the floor. We
digested this, and then a bit more came out. Six people said there
were following someone else, and five of them were feminine energy.
And a little bit more. There was one male energy that followed a
feminine. The feminine was spinning on the spot. The participant, a
woman in fact, said she followed the feminine energy until it stopped
spinning, and then she stopped following the feminine.
We were quite amazed at this, and for the participants we started to
make sense of this in terms of Hellinger and other male and female
ideas. Maleness as the protector, looking for danger or animals, the
female energy tending for the children and looking down. Some of the
participants offered similar ideas. It seemed to fit. It also helps
me understand why male energy stands in first place in the family
constellation, on the edge of the family, easier to look out etc.
Then, later we held some organisational workshops on this trip, and
still also Constellations is such a good space to explore these
dynamics and leadership. The Constellation space helps people
understand the positions and attitudes of leadership, in their own
contexts, but there are always shared themes as well. Now we add these
gendered ideas. Often in Constellations re couples working together,
it ends with the man being the leader, or the person with the
strongest male energy being the leader, which seems to be more
accurate, for example, in the case of two women working together.
Then we tried an exercise, the male energy looks out, the female more
looks in, if they go with their bodies the male energy looks out of
the window sometimes and the female energy sits on the floor. Now we
ask the basic question we use in Organisational and Management
workshops to explore leadership issues: "Follow me". The female energy
sitting on the floor responds to the male energy by the window
positively and her body is drawn away from the floor towards the
maleness. But if we reverse this and ask the female energy to say this
the male energy is perplexed, "to where?". If the 'where" is into the
home where the female energy seems to be, it seems to lack a sense of
direction.
So these ideas and exercises are useful for disseminating the various
roles and tasks in organisations as well. I think it adds a useful
dimension to help us explore.
I think the exitement of exercises in the Constellation space is that
you never know the outcome, and if you can quell your expectantions
and intentions, something rich may emerge.
Any way, these are not rules, just noticings! Of course.
Alll the best.....David Mathes, Guangzhou and Sydney
Hi,
This is one of Bert Hellinger's statements that has always interested
me. As he would say it's an observation from Constellations.
Hunter Beaumont has written about it too, and others. I have been
holding a short series of workshops in China, which I find a privelege
for a 'westerner'to be able to work with such a different culture to
my own. Of coursethere are cultural similarities as well, and many an
hour can be spent
discussing these.
Recently I had so many cases in workshop and private settings of women
struggling to be at peace with their womanhood. Very touching cases
where women had lost something along the way due to some Systemic
entanglement. The Constellation space was such a powerful gift to help
them regain a sense of fuller femininity.
I do many little exercises in my workshops, recently I almost went a full day
without doing a case, it was quite surprising. So I have started to
use a little exercise to explore Masculine and Feminine energy. I go
round the circle and give people a letter, A then B then A and B and
so on. The A's are the feminine energy. The B's the masculine,
irrespective of the gender of the participant.
I tell the group that I give the feminine the A because we are all
born of a woman. Then I let the group move with their body. The first
time I did this in Beijing, the exercise was so chaotic in the room,
it seemed there were no patterns. But we started to ask if anyone
wanted to share anything.
Then the patterns revealed themselves. The male energy often looked up
and sometimes out. The female energy often looked to the floor. We
digested this, and then a bit more came out. Six people said there
were following someone else, and five of them were feminine energy.
And a little bit more. There was one male energy that followed a
feminine. The feminine was spinning on the spot. The participant, a
woman in fact, said she followed the feminine energy until it stopped
spinning, and then she stopped following the feminine.
We were quite amazed at this, and for the participants we started to
make sense of this in terms of Hellinger and other male and female
ideas. Maleness as the protector, looking for danger or animals, the
female energy tending for the children and looking down. Some of the
participants offered similar ideas. It seemed to fit. It also helps
me understand why male energy stands in first place in the family
constellation, on the edge of the family, easier to look out etc.
Then, later we held some organisational workshops on this trip, and
still also Constellations is such a good space to explore these
dynamics and leadership. The Constellation space helps people
understand the positions and attitudes of leadership, in their own
contexts, but there are always shared themes as well. Now we add these
gendered ideas. Often in Constellations re couples working together,
it ends with the man being the leader, or the person with the
strongest male energy being the leader, which seems to be more
accurate, for example, in the case of two women working together.
Then we tried an exercise, the male energy looks out, the female more
looks in, if they go with their bodies the male energy looks out of
the window sometimes and the female energy sits on the floor. Now we
ask the basic question we use in Organisational and Management
workshops to explore leadership issues: "Follow me". The female energy
sitting on the floor responds to the male energy by the window
positively and her body is drawn away from the floor towards the
maleness. But if we reverse this and ask the female energy to say this
the male energy is perplexed, "to where?". If the 'where" is into the
home where the female energy seems to be, it seems to lack a sense of
direction.
So these ideas and exercises are useful for disseminating the various
roles and tasks in organisations as well. I think it adds a useful
dimension to help us explore.
I think the exitement of exercises in the Constellation space is that
you never know the outcome, and if you can quell your expectantions
and intentions, something rich may emerge.
Any way, these are not rules, just noticings! Of course.
Alll the best.....David Mathes, Guangzhou and Sydney
Hi,
This is one of Bert Hellinger's statements that has always interested
me. As he would say it's an observation from Constellations.
Hunter Beaumont has written about it too, and others. I have been
holding a short series of workshops in China, which I find a privelege
for a 'westerner'to be able to work with such a different culture to
my own. Of coursethere are cultural similarities as well, and many an
hour can be spent
discussing these.
Recently I had so many cases in workshop and private settings of women
struggling to be at peace with their womanhood. Very touching cases
where women had lost something along the way due to some Systemic
entanglement. The Constellation space was such a powerful gift to help
them regain a sense of fuller femininity.
I do many little exercises in my workshops, recently I almost went a full day
without doing a case, it was quite surprising. So I have started to
use a little exercise to explore Masculine and Feminine energy. I go
round the circle and give people a letter, A then B then A and B and
so on. The A's are the feminine energy. The B's the masculine,
irrespective of the gender of the participant.
I tell the group that I give the feminine the A because we are all
born of a woman. Then I let the group move with their body. The first
time I did this in Beijing, the exercise was so chaotic in the room,
it seemed there were no patterns. But we started to ask if anyone
wanted to share anything.
Then the patterns revealed themselves. The male energy often looked up
and sometimes out. The female energy often looked to the floor. We
digested this, and then a bit more came out. Six people said there
were following someone else, and five of them were feminine energy.
And a little bit more. There was one male energy that followed a
feminine. The feminine was spinning on the spot. The participant, a
woman in fact, said she followed the feminine energy until it stopped
spinning, and then she stopped following the feminine.
We were quite amazed at this, and for the participants we started to
make sense of this in terms of Hellinger and other male and female
ideas. Maleness as the protector, looking for danger or animals, the
female energy tending for the children and looking down. Some of the
participants offered similar ideas. It seemed to fit. It also helps
me understand why male energy stands in first place in the family
constellation, on the edge of the family, easier to look out etc.
Then, later we held some organisational workshops on this trip, and
still also Constellations is such a good space to explore these
dynamics and leadership. The Constellation space helps people
understand the positions and attitudes of leadership, in their own
contexts, but there are always shared themes as well. Now we add these
gendered ideas. Often in Constellations re couples working together,
it ends with the man being the leader, or the person with the
strongest male energy being the leader, which seems to be more
accurate, for example, in the case of two women working together.
Then we tried an exercise, the male energy looks out, the female more
looks in, if they go with their bodies the male energy looks out of
the window sometimes and the female energy sits on the floor. Now we
ask the basic question we use in Organisational and Management
workshops to explore leadership issues: "Follow me". The female energy
sitting on the floor responds to the male energy by the window
positively and her body is drawn away from the floor towards the
maleness. But if we reverse this and ask the female energy to say this
the male energy is perplexed, "to where?". If the 'where" is into the
home where the female energy seems to be, it seems to lack a sense of
direction.
So these ideas and exercises are useful for disseminating the various
roles and tasks in organisations as well. I think it adds a useful
dimension to help us explore.
I think the exitement of exercises in the Constellation space is that
you never know the outcome, and if you can quell your expectantions
and intentions, something rich may emerge.
Any way, these are not rules, just noticings! Of course.
Alll the best.....David Mathes, Guangzhou and Sydney
Hi,
This is one of Bert Hellinger's statements that has always interested
me. As he would say it's an observation from Constellations.
Hunter Beaumont has written about it too, and others. I have been
holding a short series of workshops in China, which I find a privelege
for a 'westerner'to be able to work with such a different culture to
my own. Of coursethere are cultural similarities as well, and many an
hour can be spent
discussing these.
Recently I had so many cases in workshop and private settings of women
struggling to be at peace with their womanhood. Very touching cases
where women had lost something along the way due to some Systemic
entanglement. The Constellation space was such a powerful gift to help
them regain a sense of fuller femininity.
I do many little exercises in my workshops, recently I almost went a full day
without doing a case, it was quite surprising. So I have started to
use a little exercise to explore Masculine and Feminine energy. I go
round the circle and give people a letter, A then B then A and B and
so on. The A's are the feminine energy. The B's the masculine,
irrespective of the gender of the participant.
I tell the group that I give the feminine the A because we are all
born of a woman. Then I let the group move with their body. The first
time I did this in Beijing, the exercise was so chaotic in the room,
it seemed there were no patterns. But we started to ask if anyone
wanted to share anything.
Then the patterns revealed themselves. The male energy often looked up
and sometimes out. The female energy often looked to the floor. We
digested this, and then a bit more came out. Six people said there
were following someone else, and five of them were feminine energy.
And a little bit more. There was one male energy that followed a
feminine. The feminine was spinning on the spot. The participant, a
woman in fact, said she followed the feminine energy until it stopped
spinning, and then she stopped following the feminine.
We were quite amazed at this, and for the participants we started to
make sense of this in terms of Hellinger and other male and female
ideas. Maleness as the protector, looking for danger or animals, the
female energy tending for the children and looking down. Some of the
participants offered similar ideas. It seemed to fit. It also helps
me understand why male energy stands in first place in the family
constellation, on the edge of the family, easier to look out etc.
Then, later we held some organisational workshops on this trip, and
still also Constellations is such a good space to explore these
dynamics and leadership. The Constellation space helps people
understand the positions and attitudes of leadership, in their own
contexts, but there are always shared themes as well. Now we add these
gendered ideas. Often in Constellations re couples working together,
it ends with the man being the leader, or the person with the
strongest male energy being the leader, which seems to be more
accurate, for example, in the case of two women working together.
Then we tried an exercise, the male energy looks out, the female more
looks in, if they go with their bodies the male energy looks out of
the window sometimes and the female energy sits on the floor. Now we
ask the basic question we use in Organisational and Management
workshops to explore leadership issues: "Follow me". The female energy
sitting on the floor responds to the male energy by the window
positively and her body is drawn away from the floor towards the
maleness. But if we reverse this and ask the female energy to say this
the male energy is perplexed, "to where?". If the 'where" is into the
home where the female energy seems to be, it seems to lack a sense of
direction.
So these ideas and exercises are useful for disseminating the various
roles and tasks in organisations as well. I think it adds a useful
dimension to help us explore.
I think the exitement of exercises in the Constellation space is that
you never know the outcome, and if you can quell your expectantions
and intentions, something rich may emerge.
Any way, these are not rules, just noticings! Of course.
Alll the best.....David Mathes, Guangzhou and Sydney
Hi,
This is one of Bert Hellinger's statements that has always interested
me. As he would say it's an observation from Constellations.
Hunter Beaumont has written about it too, and others. I have been
holding a short series of workshops in China, which I find a privelege
for a 'westerner'to be able to work with such a different culture to
my own. Of coursethere are cultural similarities as well, and many an
hour can be spent
discussing these.
Recently I had so many cases in workshop and private settings of women
struggling to be at peace with their womanhood. Very touching cases
where women had lost something along the way due to some Systemic
entanglement. The Constellation space was such a powerful gift to help
them regain a sense of fuller femininity.
I do many little exercises in my workshops, recently I almost went a full day
without doing a case, it was quite surprising. So I have started to
use a little exercise to explore Masculine and Feminine energy. I go
round the circle and give people a letter, A then B then A and B and
so on. The A's are the feminine energy. The B's the masculine,
irrespective of the gender of the participant.
I tell the group that I give the feminine the A because we are all
born of a woman. Then I let the group move with their body. The first
time I did this in Beijing, the exercise was so chaotic in the room,
it seemed there were no patterns. But we started to ask if anyone
wanted to share anything.
Then the patterns revealed themselves. The male energy often looked up
and sometimes out. The female energy often looked to the floor. We
digested this, and then a bit more came out. Six people said there
were following someone else, and five of them were feminine energy.
And a little bit more. There was one male energy that followed a
feminine. The feminine was spinning on the spot. The participant, a
woman in fact, said she followed the feminine energy until it stopped
spinning, and then she stopped following the feminine.
We were quite amazed at this, and for the participants we started to
make sense of this in terms of Hellinger and other male and female
ideas. Maleness as the protector, looking for danger or animals, the
female energy tending for the children and looking down. Some of the
participants offered similar ideas. It seemed to fit. It also helps
me understand why male energy stands in first place in the family
constellation, on the edge of the family, easier to look out etc.
Then, later we held some organisational workshops on this trip, and
still also Constellations is such a good space to explore these
dynamics and leadership. The Constellation space helps people
understand the positions and attitudes of leadership, in their own
contexts, but there are always shared themes as well. Now we add these
gendered ideas. Often in Constellations re couples working together,
it ends with the man being the leader, or the person with the
strongest male energy being the leader, which seems to be more
accurate, for example, in the case of two women working together.
Then we tried an exercise, the male energy looks out, the female more
looks in, if they go with their bodies the male energy looks out of
the window sometimes and the female energy sits on the floor. Now we
ask the basic question we use in Organisational and Management
workshops to explore leadership issues: "Follow me". The female energy
sitting on the floor responds to the male energy by the window
positively and her body is drawn away from the floor towards the
maleness. But if we reverse this and ask the female energy to say this
the male energy is perplexed, "to where?". If the 'where" is into the
home where the female energy seems to be, it seems to lack a sense of
direction.
So these ideas and exercises are useful for disseminating the various
roles and tasks in organisations as well. I think it adds a useful
dimension to help us explore.
I think the exitement of exercises in the Constellation space is that
you never know the outcome, and if you can quell your expectantions
and intentions, something rich may emerge.
Any way, these are not rules, just noticings! Of course.
Alll the best.....David Mathes, Guangzhou and Sydney
