Thank you Sarah, I know Janne and will talk with her about her experience.
Janne does a lot of things very creatively so I'm not surprised that she
will have done things that I am only just discovering. Sincerely, Doug
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[mailto:ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of sarahjibhai
Sent: Wednesday, 5 August 2009 7:57 PM
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Subject: [ConstellationTalk] Re: Live constellation following a figurine
(doll) constellation.
Hi doug,
yes i've done similar to what you did and had very similar experience with
it - that is that it felt right to set it up 'live', that the
representatives confirmed it and that the patient 'got it' viscerally a lot
more than they had in the clinic with seeing it set out with the dolls -
doing it again with people and placing the patient in the constellation
setting there seemed to crystallise or reconfirm or make more solid what had
been previously a somewhat intellectual understanding (which is why i had
suggested we do it again in the two instances i'm thinking about right now).
i'm sure janne martinengo does stuff like this too, i seem to remember her
putting up stuff in the groups that had been previously from single sessions
with clients using probably not dolls as i think she doesn't work with dolls
but individual work and then solidifying or rehashing it in a group scenario
- much more powerful in some cases. but you'd have to check with her - its
been a while since i'vve seen her work and i may have misremembered. i think
she is in this group or i could give you her email off line if you want to
email me off line (as she does a lot of work in australia where you are)
cheers, sounds like you're doing good constellating stuff
love to all
sarah
--- In ConstellationTalk@ <mailto:ConstellationTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "Dawn & Doug Smith" <family.tree@...> wrote:
immediately
Dear Chris, I had been encouraging my client to attend my family
constellation workshop which was only a couple of weeks away as an
introduction to live constellation work rather than going ahead
with a doll constellation on an issue that she was very urgent about. Myissue
sense was that she was ready to constellate the issue and she was familiar
with working with the dolls because she had done a doll constellation with
me about three years previous on a different issue and that had been very
useful for her. I went with the client's urgency and constellated her
using the dolls in a private therapy session. This went well, but Ithought
the impact of seeing this work live would be even more useful. Having thepermission,
understanding that we don't re-do (re-constellate) the same issue, I
suggested that the client come to the workshop and that with her
I bring the photo of the resolution constellation with the dolls and thatwe
could set that up live so she could both see it live and then stand in herachieve
place to experience it live. She agreed to this proposition with the
additional offer on her part of supporting my workshop and the others
attending by being an active participant,which was helpful to me to
a good sized group to work with.and
Her energy to set up her resolution constellation was strong on the day
it has a completely authentic feel within the workshop. I explained thethe
previous work that had been done privately in my clinic using the dolls to
the group. I then set up the resolution constellation with the dolls in
centre of the group on the floor using the photo to ensure I chose thesame
colour dolls and the same order was reproduced. I asked my client wouldshe
like me to choose the live representative and to just set it up. She saidthe
that she would like to choose the reps and have me place them. I placed
people by pointing to the place they should stand rather than placing themcomments
as a seeker does in the beginning of a constellation. Having set up the
resolution constellation I interviewed the representatives while my client
witnessed from her chair in the holding circle. The representatives
affirmed what a complete resolution had been reached using the dolls butan
added an element of hearing the experience of each rep as they stood in
their places. I invited my client to then stand in her place in the
constellation. This had a profoundly deepening effect for her to the
resolution.
There were some very positive outcomes from this experiment.(I call this
experiment because I had not done this or never witnessed setting up a
resolution with dolls to a live situation before, and I thought this was
authentically following the principle of not re-constellating the same
issue). For the people in the group who were new to constellation work it
served as a sort of warm up experience without all of the more stressful
stages of a constellation. For me it allowed me to follow an idea that
seemed really authentic and to validate it by testing in a live workshop
situation. I am feeling confident to do something similar in the future if
the need arises because I quite often use doll constellations with my
clients in private therapy sessions. For the group, the woman entered into
the workshop as a member and she represented in other constellations very
fully. I hope this is useful information and I would like to hear from
others their comments and experiences if they have done anything similar.
Doug Smith, Melbourne
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