*This mystery for the mind cannot ever be solved by the mind. As you
approach it from a perspective of mind, it recedes from your grasp.*
*Poetry often points or hints at this invisible and discreet being, beyond
words.*
*Pure feeling, which has not been corrupted by words and memory, springs
forth from this discreet being but it can never be described or labeled.
Like writing upon the still waters of a pond, it disappears. In mind, as
soon as it is described, it appears to recede as the attention goes into
the description. It seems to escape the attention but the waters of naked
cognition flow on regardless. The blood in your veins flows with life, as
life.*
We dont need another hero.or gurus.or divisions, thought are patterns on
the screen of consciousness believed in and take far too seriously, we can
be quite and see what happens with littel pointers here and there to the
participants who are after all a reflection of ourselves. Stop pretending,
be nothing, there is no process, there is no method. No meditation really,
all that's required is re cog nition of the Truth againn and againn
.
Thanks Bert hellinger and gilbert Schultz
On 6 Aug 2014 20:12, "Edward Phillips" <dabhain@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello everyone.
"Discard every self-seeking motive
as soon as it is seen and you need
not search for truth; truth will find
you."
Is this the core moment with in the field the truth finding you? it holds
the persons so that the absurdities of our human play can be seen and
felt.. It does not matter if the means to recovering the order of love is
male or female. As a sage once said 'love says I am everything and wisdom
says I am nothing and our lives flow between the two.
warmly yours
Edward phillops
On 4 Aug 2014 20:56, "Anutosh Foo anutoshf@xxxxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk]"
<ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Carolyn and all dear friends
Thank you for everyone’s contributions which continue to enrich me and
stretch me lovingly. Thank you.
Caroyln, dear Constellation Sistar*
Wow! Thank you.
Together, we are making a very delicious healing soup.
Thank you all dear fellow travelers for your voices.
Blessings & Love
Anutosh Foo
www.anutoshhealingarts.com
On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:04 PM, 'Carolyn Zahner' cpzahner@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello All,
Thank you, Alison for bringing this important and continuing question to
this forum.
Thank you, Eimear for bringing the specific issue out of the shadows.
Thank you, to all of the other teachers who have contributed so richly to
this thread.
For me, the Field does not rely on the form, structure or rules of
Constellations but rather, Constellations rely on the Field. Whether
through the process of Constellations or some other form, approaching this
place requires openness to wholeness: the deep place of silence, the
grounded work of analytical capacity and the personal power and maturity to
find one’s voice in the co-creative process while respecting the process of
another.
As Alison beautifully expressed:
“..it is Silence that holds the sacred.
It is also true that the sacred permeates all, and words can and do speak
from a genuine Truth - so it would be a misconception to say that words do
not also convey the sacred! (I don't know that anyone is suggesting that, I
just felt the need to acknowledge). Yet, we all know how words can distort
and seem to separate us from the deeper Truth. Yes.”
While words can distort and seem to separate us from the deeper Truth,
for me, it is also true that a dogmatic “rule” of forced silence can
equally distort to the “Truth” – and enable denial of the “Truth”. As
many others in this thread have pointed out, the dogmatic “rule” for
silence is a very different thing than the “guideline” and sacred need for
silence – in the moment, within the process - as described by Vinay,
Anutosh and so many others.
I deeply value the questions and introspection that Katia invites us
into.
I deeply value the clarity that Anni offers regarding the deep and
pervasive constructs that have historically commanded silence – falsely
claiming “sacredness” to gain and maintain power and dominance resulting in
fear based compliance to silence.
I deeply value Leslie’s wisdom in reminding us of our tendencies for
parental transference. I do not look for the “Father” or “Mother”. I
look for the “inspired teacher/ facilitator” who is humble enough to be
willing to hear and learn from the wisdom and voice of the student/seeker.
When in the place of “teacher/facilitator” I hold myself accountable to do
the same – and know I will be humanly imperfect at it.
If a question, or issue continually comes up for many and out of the
larger Field, perhaps the issue deserves wholeness - both sacred silence
and sacred voice. When we find ourselves as teacher, do we believe
ourselves to be so above our own humanness, our own entanglements, to not
explore the intention behind any “rules” of silence? Or the intention
behind our judgments of who is of value, who is “ready,” or who is too
small to be here or there?
Perhaps we are called to maintain full adult responsibility for our own
processes whether we are in the role of teacher or student. From the sacred
silence, from our own ancestors, we may find not only permission to speak,
but in some instances, even a responsibility to do so. While I may value
and maintain the Sacredness of Silence, I can also choose not to be
silenced out of fear. I look for inspired (and inspiring) teachers,
colleagues and students who are willing to include and embrace The Sacred
Voice that comes out of The Sacred Silence.
In Gratitude,
Carolyn
*Carolyn Zahner, MSW, LISW, Inc*
513-697-0260
Private Practice, Integrative Psychotherapy
www.carolynzahner.com
