A documentation process for legit reproductions signed by the artist doing them
is another need and good idea. It should not be hard for the people who are do
reproduction especially the better ones to document their work for future
reference
Best George
----- Original Message -----
From: phillipdanielanderson@xxxxxxxxx
To: comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 1:08:20 PM
Subject: [comicart-l] Re: FYI on Simonson Thor on ebay
I think this is a great idea. This has always been a problem in the hobby. In
some ways it is easier to police now since communication between collectors is
easier than ever. At the same time, I think that the technology is there to
help create better forgeries. I also think that the explosion of reproductions
is a problem. I won’t be around for it, but with all of these out there with
minimal attribution, this might be a huge problem in a couple of generations.
Phillip
From: comicartl-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <comicartl-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf
Of yellowkd@xxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 7:52 AM
To: comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [comicart-l] Re: FYI on Simonson Thor on ebay
You know it might be good to create a website of questionable ebay sale scans
as lord know s there are a lot of them along with documentation that people
have made questioning authenticity. These ebay forgeries are a toxic bomb
waiting to blow up later on the legit sketches and drawings that have been done
and are collected.
And increasingly they are getting a lot better.
When cleaning out the files, I recently found a letter from Herge related to
the sketch he did for the guy who I got it from. My original impulse was to
sell it as I can get some good money for the letter. Thinking about it I
decided to instead bag it and attach it to the back of the framed Herge sketch
for documentation later whenever I dispose of the Sketch. Likewise I found an
ad from Gary Coddington with my Shuster Superman drawing in it- add is now in a
bag and attached to the back of the frame. I see potential headaches down the
pike due to ebay feeling no liability for forgeries similar to Amazon
facilitating knock offs and bootlegs on major brands.
Best George Hagenauer
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From: "massa frederic" < badmarru@xxxxxxxxxxx >
To: comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 5:02:15 AM
Subject: [comicart-l] Re: FYI on Simonson Thor on ebay
Hi everyone
Following up on that fake Simonson, I'm sad to report that it sold despite my
contacting the seller and receiving a reply from him thanking me. Obviously he
knew what he was selling and kept the auction up.
So if it pops up somewhere, other than CAF or art dealers' sites, I would
advise to inform the buyer.
Best,Fred
From: comicartl-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx < comicartl-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > on
behalf of yellowkd@xxxxxxx < yellowkd@xxxxxxx >
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 3:31 PM
To: comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx < comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >
Subject: [comicart-l] Re: FYI on Simonson Thor on ebay
Does it even make sense to notify ebay! Man this drives me crazy at how these
guys get away with this crap and are killing the sketch market i nthe process
George Hagenauer
From: "massa frederic" < badmarru@xxxxxxxxxxx >
To: comic-art@xxxxxxxxx , "ComicartL" < comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 2:12:17 AM
Subject: [comicart-l] Re: FYI on Simonson Thor on ebay
Re Hi all,
I can confirm that this is a fake sketch as I own the original is was "copied"
off:
https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1304996 ;
Thor by Walter Simonson, in F M's SIMONSON WALTER Comic Art Gallery Room
Original Comic Art titled Thor by Walter Simonson, located in F's SIMONSON
WALTER Comic Art Gallery (1304996)
www.comicartfans.com
I will contact the seller in that sense.
Regards,Fred
From: comicartl-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx < comicartl-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > on
behalf of Malvin < dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 5:31 AM
To: comic-art@xxxxxxxxx < comic-art@xxxxxxxxx >; ComicartL <
comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >
Subject: [comicart-l] FYI on Simonson Thor on ebay
Hi All,
I saw a Simonson Thor on ebay that just seemed a little off.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Walt-Simonson-Thor-Sketch-Signed/254828506999?hash=item3b54f66f77:g:AxcAAOSwbYJf977j
I managed to reach Simonson and this is was his reply:
I can't be sure, but I think this isn't by me. Some of it looks like lines I
might draw. I'm inclined to think it's a copy of one of my sketches. The
signature in particular does not look like mine, especially on the right side.
So I'm not 100% certain, but it seems unlikely
It doesn't help that the same seller also has a Kirby Darkseid and a Jerry
Robinson Joker (not my area of expertise but often faked as we all know)
Malvin
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