Wow. That website is really inaccurate and feels very argumentative to me.
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From: CollabLaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:CollabLaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ;
Chip Rose
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:04 PM
To: CollabLaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [CollabLaw] How different from litigation? How much like
mediation? Is our message getting distorted? Is CP getting distorted?
To your last point, Morris, the Academy of Professional Family Mediators—formed
last year by former leaders of the Academy of Family Mediators—is diligently
working on the issue of accreditation for professional family mediators
recognizing that a number of states already set accreditation standards and
that these tend to be driven by bar associations with a decidedly narrow focus
on facilitative, consensual negotiating processes. Following our enormously
successful founding conference last year, APFM has organized a task force of
members from across North America and Europe to work on standards of practice
and certification as it would be designed by practicing professional mediators
rather than institutional legal organizations or legislatures. In the absence
of such standards, we see these kinds of “rigorous requirements” created by who
knows, that causes your description to drip!
Chip
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-----Original Message-----
From: M. Armstrong
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 6:10 PM
To: CollabLaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [CollabLaw] How different from litigation? How much like
mediation? Is our message getting distorted? Is CP getting distorted?
That is some website and in my opinion, a bit more than misleading. What
jumps out is the section on level of compliance. I think that it wrongly
implies that litigation is automatically an ordered settlement and ignores
the process. If you tally all divorces, mediated, litigated and
Collaborated, what is the percent hat actually goes to trial? 2 percent?
That would indicate that the other 98 percent are mutually agreed upon - be
they mediated, Collaborated or litigated.
I like the rigorous requirements to become an Accredited Professional
Divorce Mediator, said with dripping sarcasm.
-----Original Message-----
From: CollabLaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:CollabLaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Paul G. Kostro, Esq.
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 6:22 PM
To: CollabLaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [CollabLaw] How different from litigation? How much like
mediation? Is our message getting distorted? Is CP getting distorted?
I believe that the website referred to is:
http://www.equitablemediation.com/an-equitable-difference/mediation-collabor
ative-divorce-litigation/
Paul G. Kostro, Esq.
726 West Saint Georges Avenue (Rt. 27)
Linden, NJ 07036
908-486-2200
Paul@xxxxxxxxxx
www.Kostro.com
Fax: 908-486-1200
On 2/11/2013 5:45 PM, Aaron G. Welt, Ph.D. wrote:
Would you send me or us the name of the service that put out the chart?
Being here in NJ, I am naturally interested.
Aaron
Aaron G. Welt, Ph.D.
261 James St.
Suite 2-C
Morristown, NJ 07960
535 Morris Ave.
Springfield, NJ 07081
973-538-7490
carl Michael rossi wrote:
I put this also on a LinkedIn Group....but I still prefer using the
listServe for such questions....
Came upon a very interesting chart comparing
Mediation-Collaborative-Litigation....compiled by a non-attorney
mediation service in New Jersey and Illinois. Some highlights from
the CP column:
"Child Focused? - Maybe - collaborative divorce is directed by two
family attorneys who may or may not have your children's best
interests in mind."
"Participation by the Parties - Medium - Collaborative divorce is
controlled by family attorneys and other professionals. You have some
input in the settlement they draft."
"Fairness - Medium - Having a family attorney fight for you might
lead to a fairer agreement. Or it might not.If you're lucky you'll
have two attorneys in the room who know each other and can at least
try and work together."
"Likelihood of compliance - Moderate - The parties may have had some
hand in the settlement but since it was more likely directed by two
family attorneys, you may or may not agree with the settlement and
want to comply."
Obviously this person is pushing his own services. But how far off is
he? My perception is that the more a professional considers CP as
"settlement", the more the process ends up being just what this one
says about us.....that it isn't all that different from litigation.
What do you think? How do you make sure that you are NOT just 'settling'?
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