Hi Dave, cool collection, yes. I also assembled an around the clock collection (45 deg intervals) for fun as well. Traditionally we think of varieties as die differences but I wonder where this type of thing falls. I think of manufacturing differences as errors, but in this case it is clearly intentional so I don't think they can be classified as errors. A great deal of minor varieties are not worth much of a premium and could be classified as fun items. Do we think they fall into the category of minor varieties or are they in a category on their own? Any other views? Henry _____ From: cndcoinerrs-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cndcoinerrs-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Morencie Sent: August 6, 2006 11:08 AM To: cndcoinerrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [cndcoinerrs]: Re: Are colouring variations varieties? Hi Henry Back when these came out & we noticed the rotated ribbons a few of us talked about how it would be neat to put together a 'round the clock' set. I wasn't able to get many from the local Shopper's, but have picked up several more in change since. Here is my assortment so far. The first coin starts with the longest length of ribbon pointed at 12 o'clock & then they rotate clockwise. The numbers on the 2x2 simply correspond to the order in which I received the coins. Although technically they are varieties imho, they are just 'fun' items & certainly wouldn't be worth a premium. Just my usual 2 cents worth. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Henry <mailto:vertex4@xxxxxxxxxx> Nienhuis To: cndcoinerrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 7:39 AM Subject: [cndcoinerrs]: Are colouring variations varieties? Hello everyone, If activity at the RCM over that last few years is any indicator, colourized coins are here to stay and not just as fringe gift-ware products. Even the mint-state purists amongst us must consider colourized coins as potential items in our collections. A case in point is the recent release in May of the "Pink Ribbon" 25c piece. I received one in change the other day which brought this question back to mind. As you might know the process in which the ribbon is applied to the coin does not ensure any particular orientation of the reverse. This means that there are many possible variations of the placement of the ribbon with respect to the orientation of the struck design. Although the struck design, I believe was intentionally symmetric, the designer's initials are a clear marker for a specific orientation. This marker also corresponds to the traditional medal alignment of Canadian coins. My question is are these variations in the placement of the ribbon to be considered as Varieties for this coin? If not, then how do we categorize the differences? I am including an image to give you a better idea what I am referring to. (You can see the initials in the lower right). Your opinions are greatly appreciated. Henry _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/410 - Release Date: 05/08/2006