I think the problem is that it is harder to demote someone without hurting their feelings or getting them pissed than it is to promote someone. Thats why we need a probationary period first. He probably shouldnt have been allowed in here to begin with and given that high of an access level. For entry into the >400 access level, the vote must be unaninmous and only after an extended period of < 400 op status. I think jd got in more or less because he was the catalyst in the #cisco/lucid split, though far from the only factor. Nobody wants to be the bad guy or bearer of bad tidings, so when he found out on his own that his access was lowered, he probably got mad. We probably should have told him the plans first, though I still dont think it would have changed the results. Rupert > > From: WayzNMeanz@xxxxxxx > Date: 2002/10/07 Mon AM 09:53:06 EDT > To: ciscomgr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ciscomgr] Re: mostly quiet on the western front > > > indeed, fuck him anyway now, after ranting at me he parted #ciscosystems and > deopped himself in #cisco so that worked out well ackjewely > > frickin baby, oh well ;) > > >