In response to Lisa Davis' report of her telnet experience: I think that if the telnet was more user friendly I would have gotten more information and less of a headache. I don't think I will make a practice of using telnet very often, unless I figure out some way to get around the way the screen looks, (very dated!) to me it was too confusing. Holly H http4him@xxxxxxxx So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal 2Corinthians 4:18