[CIAM-F6-Working_Group] AW: Re: World Artistic Games
- From: Martin Müller <cap21@xxxxxx>
- To: <ciam-f6-wg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:57:44 +0200
Hello Guy,
I absolutely agree with Jiri´s comments! If China is not able to qualify at
least on local pilot the regular way, the organisation should nominate a
?local hero? as number 25. I am quite sure there are some Chinese pilots
with good flying skills;)
I also agree about the 3 different routines. Guy; remember the last WAG. It
takes a lot of time to create and practice a good 2min-routine. I am sure
the most pilots are not able to do 3 different routines in same high level
as one or two.
Cheers,
Martin
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[mailto:ciam-f6-wg-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Jirí Havel
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Hello Guy, my comments to your last letter:
a) The international contests which have to be listed in official FAI
calendar 2012 have to be announced to CIAM latest till Nov. 15th, 2011 so
that we do not have too much time. Czech F6B contest will be in January 2012
and Czech NAeC will announce the exact term of it in time.
b) According to my opinion we have to calculate with one local pilot
from China but it would be good or at least reasonable if organizer would
accept him as 25th pilot above the limit, what do you say? The quality of
local pilot need not to be comparable with the other selected pilots so that
contest could be loosing one good pilot.
c) Why 3 musics? Usually the music is bunch of different fragments and
normal spectator is not able to remember it at all!!! My opinion is, that 2
musics are enough and pilot must be obliged to change them in each of his
consequent round during a day. The requirement for three musics I evaluate
as contraproductive, it would be only bothering the pilots!
Best regards Jiri
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Subject: [CIAM-F6-Working_Group] Re: World Artistic Games
Dear all,
I had a look at the preliminary WArtGames competitors survey we drafted a
few months ago. If we are to make a proper final selection, we definitely
need a couple of F6B international contests to assess the level of some of
the lesser known pilots from countries such as Belarus, Russia, etc. So I
remind you that contests have to be registered to FAI at the latest 3 months
before the event.
In addition, it came to my mind that it may be wise to include in the
selection of invited pilots at least one pilot from the host country
(China), what do you think ? While we ignored what the host country was, we
could believe at least one of its home pilots would make the selection, but
such is not the case. Having a place reserved for a Chinese pilot may help
pushing the class in this country and possibly in whole Asia.
Please be aware also that, according to the present schedule draft, pilots
will be required, as a local rule, to have three different music & schedule
sets ready, so that they would never fly the same schedule twice during the
same day.
Any comment ?
Guy R.
PS: Donatas & others, I need the email addresses for Janne Lappi, Krzysztof
Bogdanski etc. Please write privately to me.
At 16:44 18/10/2011, Guy Revel wrote:
Dear all,
The news comes from the FAI General Conference that came to an end yesterday
in Belgrade, Serbia.
The World Artistic Games will take place in China during the second half of
November, 2012. The competitors will be submitted by FAI 90 days in advance
at the latest. This means that for those countries for which we discussed a
possibility of 2 competitors (Belgium, Czech Republic, United Kingdom,
Germany, France, USA and possibly Japan) selection, if any, have to take
place during this winter/spring either through AeroMusicals (F6B) selection
contests or through direct nomination by their NAC.
Reminder 1 : Travel and in-country expenses are covered by the organiser.
Reminder 2 : As agreed earlier, the WAG medal winners (Fabien Turpaud,
Martin Müller, Donatas Pauzuolis) are automatically selected, leaving the
German and French NACs to nominate only 1 additional pilot.
Of course, the agreement we came to still has to be validated by the CIAM
Bureau at its December meeting. Then NACs will be asked to submit names from
which the F6 Working Group will establish the final list of 24 competitors
to be submited to, and validated by, the April, 2011 CIAM Bureau (and
Plenary meeting). If more pilot names are submitted by NACs than the 24
limit, the Working Group will have to establish an international ranking, so
it may be useful that pilots take part in international F6B competitions so
as to establish such an international ranking.
There will be an information meeting on November 13th with SportAccord and
FAI, so I should be able to tell you more quite soon.
Guy R.
PS: While I am at it, I append the score sheets valid from January 1, 2012.
This is what will be used at the World Artistic Games, so obviously is is
advisable to use the new, 2012 set of rules at any 2011/2012 Winter season
contest that may be used to select WArtGames pilots. While the 2012 Sporting
Code is not yet available, I also include the full rules set + 2012 changes.
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