I forgot that solid mode had the lighting and shading built into it since I been so lost in the light and plasma modes. The lighting I was refering to in the previous email was for plasma and light modes... essentially the same as solid except it maintains the color gradients and has that sort of tubular look of those modes if that makes sense. James ====================================================== The Chaoscope mailing-list Archives : //www.freelists.org/archives/chaoscope Admin contact : chaoscope@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site : http://www.chaoscope.org ======================================================