Hehe, Yep, a bit quiet...but that's to be expected considering that we are at the end of the school year, summer starting, people going on vacation.... knock, knock, knock... re: Installer Hmm, I tend to agree with Stephen...installers are nice, but...I tend not to use them very often and prefer to just unzip the stuff where I want it. An option to download either an installer or just a zip might be a good idea...maybe even just an "upgrade" package for those with a compatible prior version would be another good idea. See you later! Glenn -- To unsubscribe, send a message to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe calmira_tips" in the body. OR visit //freelists.org