Just to let those of you who are not familiar with current US laws regarding patents and copyrights, the patent life of a product was increased some 2 years ago in the US to "bring us inline with the rest of the world" from 17 years to 20 years...copyrights are similar, with the exception that most really never do expire. So, to say that MS or anyone else loses copyright/patent protection after only 9 or 10 years is simply incorrect...try telling the author of a book that was published some 8 or 10 years ago that he no longer can expect to collect royalties from the sales of copies of that book and listen to the uproar! Same is true of musicians, artists...I enter into evidence the current state of conflict regarding Napster and its clones! OK, enough of that...on a much happier note, my daughter had her baby today (Monday, 3/19/01)...a little girl...but don't get the idea of calling me Grandpa just yet! I don't feel quite that old, hahaha. See you later! Glenn To unsubscribe, send a message to listar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe calmira_tips" in the body. OR visit http://freelists.dhs.org