Eric Wilhelm said: (by the date of Sun, 7 Sep 2003 01:19:58 -0500) > Or maybe a modified bash shell that allows ed to see the database as a > filesystem? exactly. that's what I was talking about 'object browser' a midnight-commander-like interface that allows to browse all files, by different categories (different attributes) where while browsing selected category entering a directory of that category will display all object (files) that fall into such category. Because you have infinite number of categories. and every file can have any of them - you can manage lots of files with it. It's a lot better than 1D filesystem directory structure. with this object browser you can select (and acquire selections from "display" interafce), copy, move rename, text-edit a file... and who knows what more? only one, most important thing will be reflected in the directory structure: - objects structure in the drawing -> blocks definitions (one block can be softlinked to many places, attributes could also be softlinked (eg - between drawings - someone draws all drawings using the same drawing template. a part of drawing template are his attribute definitions) -- # Janek Kozicki