Hi
I would like to add a point to Robert's comments.
Before saying anything, I'd like to say that I've spent a month or two
flying with MCE and trying to fly the aircrafts equipped with the Flight
Management System.
short version: It is absolutely not possible to do it without a sighted
person logging into your computer and adjusting some things here and there.
You can however, Fly the aircrafts that does not have Flight Management
System with MCE, like IYP with a big difference: MCE will not help to
control speed and does not provide you a complete checklist and You're
all on your own.
So basically, MCE was useless to me.
Long version: I've pirated a huge load of FMC equipped aircraft and
tried flying them with Multi Crew Experience.
The one aircraft that was very friendly to use, was the Aerosoft Airbus
A320. Multi Crew Experience lets you to script all the controls, even
the Flight Management Computer. So I went ahead and scripted a fully
prepared flight, With all the information that the FMC needed for the
aircraft to properly fly and automatically land at the destination.
One big issue that I've faced however, was that the plane dropped a few
points of "Discontinuity" in the route of the FMC, all by itself. I've
asked from a pilot that what does this mean and they told me that the
computer takes a guess which the plane needs to be manually vectored,
and will drop "Discontinuity" points along the routes, where your plane
will drop out of the auto pilot for manual control.
All you need to do, is go through your route and waypoints, and remove
the discontinuity fields off your FMC screen. but That's not possible to
do with MCE, or any other tool that i've tried.
I know that a lot of you guys are very enthusiastic about flight
simulation, So I went ahead and explained about some of the things I've
done in the passed. I might have a shot at MCE but not anytime soon. I'm
about to move out of the country, and This has took a lot of free time
from me since last 3 years or so. But I know I'll get back at IYP or
possibly MCE at some time hopefully. I really do not have any hopes for
MCE though; Unless something major happen in their development process,
which I doubt.
On 1/2/2017 12:17 AM, Robert Cezar wrote:
Hello Zack,
RE: It’s worth noting that Multicrew Experience, another voice control add-on, does support PMDG.
MCE was designed for sighted pilots and provides for a very realistic cockpit environment. It can also be used by BVI pilots to hear the same environmentl sounds. The command sets, sounds and ambient noises are fantastic. FSUIPC is not required, because MCE was not designed to manage to low-level aircraft facilities.
IYP was designed specifically for BVI pilots and can also be used by sighted pilots. The main design objective of IYP was to allow BVI pilots to FLY an aircraft. Admittedly, the IYP command sets, sounds and ambient noises are not nearly as extensive as MCE. However, and by contrast, IYP employs tens of thousands of lines of code to allow a blind or physically impaired pilot to control every aspect of an aircraft, including the auto-takeoff and auto-landing of a supported plane while avoiding terrain on approach.
In summary... apples and oranges.
HNY
Robert
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Jordan Gallacher <jordanandseptember@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jordanandseptember@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
It has been quite a while, over five years in fact because the
company refused to transfer my license to my new computer that I
had purchased in 2011, since I had last used MCE.
Jordan
*From:*bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Zachary Kline
*Sent:* Saturday, December 31, 2016 8:43 PM
*To:* bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [bvipilots] Re: flying with an unsupported autopilot
Jordan and Ron,
I wondered where the MCE commands which do exist for BVI pilots
came from. Were they added at somebody’s recommendation, or were
they in the system when you started testing it?
Just curious,
Zack.
On Dec 31, 2016, at 6:28 PM, Jordan Gallacher
<jordanandseptember@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jordanandseptember@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
MCE works okay for BVI, but the one big draw back to it is
that there is no setup for you to be able to land with it,
which the developer would not listen to me about when I was
beta testing it.
Jordan
*From:*bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Ron
Kolesar
*Sent:* Saturday, December 31, 2016 8:15 PM
*To:* B V I Pilots Mailing List
*Subject:* [bvipilots] Re: flying with an unsupported autopilot
Zach.
I once was a beta tester for MCE.
I left because it was like don’t call us we’ll call you and it
really wasn’t all that BVI Pilot friendly.
Sorry to ship sad news.
So far in this BVI Pilot’s opinion, IYP is the only thing that
will work for us at this time.
Ron who whishing all a happy new year.
As Robert keeps telling us all to do:
“Keep The Blue Side Up.”
*From:*Zachary Kline
*Sent:*Saturday, December 31, 2016 07:34 PM
*To:*bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:*[bvipilots] Re: flying with an unsupported autopilot
It’s worth noting that Multicrew Experience, another voice
control add-on, does support PMDG, though I haven’t used it
with them myself, as I don’t own those aircraft. Still,
something to consider :)
Best,
Zack.
On Dec 31, 2016, at 4:13 PM, Kevin Struska
<kev5688@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:kev5688@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi all,
So I really, really like the 737-800 NG aircraft, but its
autopilot system is unsupported by IYP, so I'm unable to
say things like "make the heading 0 niner 0", or "climb
and maintain 3000". Do you know if there is some way with
the keyboard or by saying ulternate phraises, perhaps,
that I could fly with this aircraft?
