Hi there,
Yeah, as Jason mentioned, there are very friendly controllers active,
specially in VATSIM (I've met some in the IVAO network as well). the
initial contact can be extremely hard. As you know some people have very
quick comprehension of stuff, So as soon as you say that you're blind
and you use a voice activated add on, They quickly grasp it and go on
with it. Some controllers make no attempt to understand what you say,
but still will clear the runway for you and give you clearance to slew
into it. Some of them, specially in very busy airports (Such as EGLL,
KJFK and such) Might refuse to cooperate. At that time It's always good
to just disconnect and continue your flight offline, Because VATSIM and
IVAO are both heavily moderated networks. If you're covering an area as
an Air Traffic Controller, You are responsible for all the traffic and
If you accidentally screw up a pilot's flight, They can file a complaint
and you'd lose your ATC ratings.
This is both a good thing and a bad thing. Bad thing about it is that
sometimes ATC instructs you to do a thing that is not possible to do
with Itsyourplane. for example a holding. or a procedure like, "Go
direct to Rodeville.". most of the time, You can ask them to give you
radar vectors. but sometimes for whatever complexity they reject your
request and You will have to disconnect.
Good thing about this is that while you're in the air in an controlled
sector, You can expect everything to go smooth and perfect. Since almost
all of the controllers pass some sort of training and examination to get
certified, They'll sort traffic pretty good and everyone performs their
own procedure in a professional manner and You will have a very good
online experience.
Now, This does not mean that you will not get stupid controllers giving
you wrong vectors or forget to vector you at all. The last one is very
extremely rare. Because they always monitor each traffic very closely,
so if you manage to drift off of your corse They'll quickly react.
Once or twice I remember that a controller dumped me right into the
ILS path something about 5 miles out of the runway and asked me to
land. It was clear that they were not paying attention and wanted me to
just do a visual approach and land the thing, but that was not possible
at all.
And while we're on the controllers subject, You'll find out that there
are some dedicated members in VATSIM or IVAO network. If you fly a route
that's under their coverage much more often, They begin to recognize you
and you do not need to do the "/private message hello I'm a blind
pilot..." thing every time you want to do a flight. Oh and yes, You'll
have to do this every time you want to fly If the departure area is
controlled....welcome to online flying!
I will talk about controlled areas and things like that later though.
@Sarah
For online flying, You'd need to know Itsyourplane very well. It does
not mean that it's going to take a very long time to do that though! I'm
just saying that because sometimes you need to do some...very not
standard procedures with Itsyourplane, which the result behavior might
confuse you.
@zack
I just saw your mail about Pilot Edge. I think It's a very good thing to
start off in a small online community. You will probably have a very
good time. the things that I said above are mostly regarded for VATSIM
and IVAO networks, since they're huge and thousands of online pilots
and controllers are active there. I think with an online community like
Pilot Edge, things might be much more easier since you can find friends
much more faster and they might not be so much strict on standard
procedures.
I'm still working on the guide. one of the tools is giving me some
trouble and I'm trying to fix it. I'll write it as soon as I can! promise!
Cheers
Hadi
On 1/16/2017 12:40 AM, Zachary Kline wrote:
Not at all, Sarah. I didn’t read it as flaming in any sense.
No worries,
Zack
On Jan 15, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Thats good, by the way I'm trying not to start a flame war or anything like that, I was just expressing my strong opinions. I hope I didn't offend.
Blessings and happy Sunday
On Jan 15, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Jason Fayre <jfayre@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jfayre@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
As I understand, that is correct. I've heard that most controllers are fairly understanding. Hadi has a lot of experience with this, looking forward to his words of wisdom. No pressure Hadi!
On 2017-01-15 1:48 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
Hi Sarah,
I think we can do it if we make it clear to them we need to for accessibility reasons. I’m planning to just not mention it until I’m actually online, because i figure it’s easier to talk to them and explain the situation. PilotEdge, the system I’m interested in trying, seems like a professional outfit, so I’d trust they’ll be understanding.
GOod luck,
Zack.
On Jan 15, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I thought that the Live ATC people don't like when we use IYP because it teleports us to the runway instead of letting us taxi and hold etc. I could be wrong though, but if I'm not, I don't think that's fair to not let us or those of us sighted or blind who use IYP not use live ATC plugin, that's just me though. When I get more experienced though I would like to try anyway.
Take care all.
On Jan 15, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jason Fayre <jfayre@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jfayre@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Really looking forward to this as well. This is something I've been wanting to get into for quite a while and just never took the time to set everything up.
On 2017-01-15 2:00 AM, Hadi Rzaei wrote:
Of course.
I will provide tools as well
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 15, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Jordan Gallacher <jordanandseptember@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jordanandseptember@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I would like to know as well.
Jordan
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:51 PM, Zachary Kline <zkline@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:zkline@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hey,
I’d definitely appreciate any advice you could give. A guide is probably a bit easier for me to deal with than SKype, but I’m open to whatever’s easier for you.
Thanks,
Zack.
On Jan 14, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Hadi Rzaei <hadirezaei@xxxxxxx <mailto:hadirezaei@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
Heya
I can give you some good advice for online flying
We can skype or i can write some sorta guide or something once im home
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 15, 2017, at 7:04 AM, Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Page 184 of the IYP Users'manual.
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Zachary Kline <zkline@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:zkline@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi All,
I’m thinking of trying out PilotEdge or Vatsim, and have
a couple questions. Mostly, I’m wondering if it’s
possible to change the push-to-talk key by any chance?
The default PE ptt key is scroll-lock, but their
documentation advises removing the default scroll-lock
binding in FSX, and I don’t know if I’d like to do that.
So I was thinking of changing the binding from scroll
lock o, say, space bar.
Is this possible?
Thanks much,
Zack.Blind and Visually impaired Pilots mailinglist
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