[bsgroups] Re: You ca call me Ray, you can call me Jay
- From: "Shayne Ford" <barbiesmommy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 23:47:40 -0500
Okay okay. I cheated early on and set up a very short distribution
list
in my contacts folder cause I'm very attached to shortcuts in this
situation.
Shayne
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[mailto:bsgroups-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vicki Frei
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 7:29 PM
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Subject: [bsgroups] Re: You ca call me Ray, you can call me Jay
Invite the guy who knows whathehell is going on, BY ALL MEANS. So
my
vote's yes.
And yes, Shayne is on the list. But I didn't get the mails
either....
except
Jerry's answer-one, which went to bsgroups. So I'm thinking Shayne
probably
needs to remember to use bsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx in her email
addy....
unless
there's something else wonky going on.... I HOPE NOT.
V
BJ wrote:
> Okay, now I got a couple questions- you're answering questions
Shayne
> asked you but I didn't get that email. Shayne, did you send it to
the
> list? Or to Jerry? Is Shayne ON the list?
>
> Jerry, what in holey hell is "DAMHIK"?? Or was that one of the
critters
> typing?
>
> And Jerry, that was a very good (if maybe a BIT too thorough)
> explanation of "location" where 'puters are concerned.
>
> Now, I've got a question to ask the group. I was considering
inviting
> Shawn, a php programmer, to join the list. He doesn't need to
learn,
> since he's already being paid to write this stuff, but if he does
take
> us up on it he could maybe be available to just moderate a bit and
steer
> us right if we're headed too far afield. He's busy so I don't
wanna
> dump a lot on him, but he could just kinda "listen in" and answer
only
> if we really need him. But ONLY if you guys say it's okay.
>
> Jerry McCaffrey wrote:
>
>> Shayne
>>
>> Glad you got the installs for XAMPP completed. Thank you for
finding
>> the control panel, my XAMPP install was before that was added so
I
>> added it now. That is helpful especially to see the little green
>> running labels.
>>
>> You seem confused by the networking addresses. For any web site
there
>> are many times two ways to reach it. First is the name such as
>> www.lehigh.edu (a college by Bonny) and that is also at an IP
address
>> of 128.180.2.14. If you go to a command box and type in C:\ping
>> www.simoogle.com (a tribute to by deceased dog) it will resolve
to
>> 216.52.184.240. Where http://128.180.2.14 will take you to
Lehigh
>> University, http://216.52.184.240 will take you to a screen
saying
>> that "We're sorry, but we were unable to process the redirection
>> request for the site you are attempting to access. If you feel
that
>> you are receiving this message in error, please check the URL and
try
>> your request again." That is because that page is being referred
from
>> one web hosting company to another and needs the name ID to
properly
>> identify it. The IP 216.52.184.240 actually goes to a hosting
server
>> at namecheap.com
>> All of this magic is done on the Internet with DNS (dynamic name
>> service).
>>
>> Your webserver would need a DNS entry for outsiders to reach it
by
>> name. If it had a static IP folks could reach it without a DNS
entry
>> if that IP was entered. What happens however is that multiple
websites
>> are hosted on a single webserver so you need a name for that
server
to
>> parse the traffic even if you can reach it by IP address only.
>>
>> Now to "localhost." Your computer actually has 4 identities.
Mine
has
>> a computer name, "Schuster." My computers are named after our
>> Weimaraners....Simon, Schuster, and Moose(the laptop). You
probably
>> know you computers name, if not it is available on the properties
page
>> for My Computer. By convention "localhost" is an alias and can be
>> substituted for the computer's name on any computer, but only on
that
>> same computer. Similarly the local IP of my is 192.168.0.13 and
can
be
>> found from the command prompt with "ipconfig." Again there is a
>> shorthand alias for the local IP of all computers so they can
talk to
>> themselves and that IP is 127.0.0.1 If you start your Apache and
see
>> the little green running light you can enter any of the four
address
>> to get to the Apache splash page:
>>
>> http://127.0.0.1/xampp/splash.php
>> http://192.168.0.13/xampp/splash.php
>> http://schuster/xampp/splash.php
>> http://localhost/xampp/splash.php
>>
>> Localhost and 127.0.0.1 allow programmers and controls to access
the
>> webserver locally without knowing it's name or local IP. Just to
>> confuse you further, there is a text file buried on your computer
>> called Hosts. If you put an entry there, you can point any name
like
>> "www.simoogle.com" to any IP, including 127.0.0.1 so you could
use
the
>> actual name to run it (only for you) on your test server without
using
>> any of the above four methods. Of course your could not reach the
real
>> external site without changing or deleting the host entry. Just
as
an
>> aside, there is also a file lmhosts that allows you to associate
your
>> computer name with a specific IP. This can be helpful or
dangerous
>> DAMHIK.
>>
>> So if you didn't understand the localhost concept before, I'm
sure
>> that I have totally confused you. But just type it in at the
beginning
>> of the address and it will keep it on your local webserver
instead of
>> scouring the Internet for a different one. Hope that helps.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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