Hello
That is true, but you can use the entire screen of the touch as a
keyboard, where as only the top half of the screen is a visual
display. The keyboard would cover a certain part of the screen.
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From: "Sharon S" <koala@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: "'BrailleNote'" <braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Tue, 31 May 2016 17:31:25 +1000
Subject: [BNU] Re: Did anyone preorder the Braillenote Touch?
Hi Rajmund, one thing about the touch keyboard. The keyboard is
a separate part of the screen from the visual part. So there
will be no need to remove the keyboard for others to see what is
happening.
From Shaz.
BN QT Apex user
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Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2016 2:53 PM
To: rg@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Subject: [BNU] Re: Did anyone preorder the Braillenote Touch?
Hello,
3 things for me. 1) android. I, absolutely, hate the whole idea
of android.
2) an iPad, for 1 10th of it's price, and my braille sense, will
give me exactly the same access. 3) a touch screen note taker?
To me, probably the screen is the biggest put off right now. Not
to mention the fact that if I'm writing on the keyboard, people
may want me to keep flipping it up. Would be a bit annoying.
Sent from my iPhone 5S
On 31 May 2016, at 2:47 am, Robert Gilchrist <rg@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Here I must agree with Sabahattin. (I apologize in advance for
any
misspelling of his name.)
I am currently using a BRAILIANT BI 32 as my Braile Computer
Access
Point. I still use my APEX for some functions but as Sabahattin
says
these functions do not require network connectivity.
My
best Braille access possibility is what I am presently using to
wrete
this message on which consists of a BRAILIANT BI 32 conected to
my
laptop runing JAWS utilizing GMAIL.
Since
Sabahattin has put the case so eloquently in his previous
message.
There is little more to say.
I remain very interested in the Brailleationote Touch, but I
would not
order it, in my case also because there is a significant price
difference between my present access system, and that of trying
to use
a BrailleNote Touch. Not to mention the fact that I can gain
access to
any computing platform that can be driven either by direct usb
connection to or Bluetooth connection to my present Braille
display,
which also includes VoiceOver.
Rob
On 5/30/16, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listsebby@xxxxxx> wrote:
Hiya,
Well, I�셫 interested in the capabilities of the BrailleNote
Touch,
certainly, but I don�셳 think it's for me, at least as it now
stands.
My biggest reasons: basic, fundamental requirements that are not
accommodated at all, like Braille Terminal (this is a braille
display, after
all) and free-form editing of braille (because it�셲 like a
Perkins Brailler,
after all). It can�셳 even edit plain text files, for
heaven�셲 sake!
Indeed, to expand on this and generalise it a bit, I think
it�셲 fair to say
that KeySoft is exquisite as it now stands, as long as you
exclude any
function that touches the network, either directly or
indirectly. The book
reader, calculator, games, and dictionary/thesaurus are also
wonderful, for
example, and are very easy to use. The only network function of
KeySoft I
use is the automatic time-setting that is done at startup (even
though the
clock drift is still too great for it to be useful). Leave out
Chat,
do Planner, Email, Navigation, Internet and Address List, and
the Apex is still
a very useful device that rivals, say, the Baum note-taking
functions
handily. I appreciate that for some people, interoperability
with Microsoft
Word is important�봴nfortunate, but important�봞nd so I will
concede that the
Apex could do better, but to have a choice about it, I�셝
continue to edit in
plain text and/or braille. So really, if I had any gripe at
all, it�셲 the
unfixed Apex bugs that will now, I imagine, never get fixed.
And you know
what they say about sticking with the devil you know. :)
I�셶e also expressed concern about the Touch somewhere that,
yes, being two
Android releases behind is a problem. If we�셱e not careful,
we�셪l be left
behind, just as we were with the Apex. Sure, it�셪l be more
mainstream, but
we won�셳 be getting the benefits of the newer features in a
timely manner.
One feature we are already bound to miss out on�봞nd I think
this is a
terrible shame�봧s permissions management in Android
Marshmallow. You can
forget about having meaningful privacy with many Play Store
apps, and I�셫
not exactly madly in love with Google�셲 approach to privacy in
Android as it
is.
So yeah, I�셫 afraid it�셲 beyond me that HW missed out these
capabilities.
Sure, Windows CE is limited, more so with KeySoft running on it,
but I think
this is just a push too far toward �쏮ainstream�� and away
from what are,
after all, fundamental features for a braille note-taker, which
is what the
Apex and its predecessors are. And, as we know, many of the
issues with the
Apex were entirely self-inflicted, by Humanware�셲 closed and
unbending
nature. Is perhaps now the time to release the Apex SDK as well
as the
Touch�셲? It�셲 long overdue as it is.
Or perhaps I should just accept the inevitability of using a
separate
braille display. It wouldn�셳 be as nice, but it�셲 bound to
work.
still, I will get a demo of the Touch, and take a proper look,
just to be
sure. I intend to be objective.
I look forward to further discussion. My opinions are my own,
etc, etc. :)
Cheers,
Sabahattin
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