[brailleblaster] Re: some considerations
- From: Alex Jurgensen <asquared21@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 21:03:56 -0800
Hi,
But a novis creates structured documents with Pages and probably with Word/Open
Office templates, so why could this not be done. Most of Pages seems to be
driven this way.
Regards,
Alex,
On 2010-11-08, at 8:22 PM, John Gardner wrote:
> I am concerned about trying to make BrailleBlaster also a DAISY creation
> tool. Creating/editing structured documents is not something a novice
> computer user can usually do.
>
> There is no reason that BrailleBlaster's code base cannot be used for other
> things, and developing a true DAISY authoring tool might be relatively
> straightforward. Personally I would love to spin off a DAISY Reader project
> too. But we don't have just lots of resources to spread around, so we
> should really just concentrate on BrailleBlaster. At least that's my
> opinion.
>
> John G
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:31 PM
> To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: some considerations
>
> An adendum to my previous e-mail. Of course BrailleBlaster won't create
> complete Daisy documents, just the xml file. That is the only thing
> I usually deal with, so i tend to thing it's the whole thing. I
> understand that there is software that wikll create a complete taisy
> document from the xml file.
>
> John
>
> On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 09:13:57PM -0600, John J. Boyer wrote:
>> That is basically my understanding. However, I see no reason why
>> BrailleBlaster couldn't create a Daisy document, just as Word can create
>> a doc or docx file. Someone might want to use brailleBlaster to create a
>> braille document from scratch. Creating a badsic Daisy template is
>> simple. I do that in liblouisutdml for translating text files and
>> back-translating brf files. The structure the user will see for such a
>> file is juust a set of paragraphs. She would have the option of
>> changging the paragraphs to whatever else is permitted in that point by
>> Daisy.
>>
>>> From the programmer's point of view, all the editor will be doing is
>> adding nodes, deleting them, changing the tags on them (as for headings)
>> and changing the content of text nodes.
>>
>> For Laura, can you point me to editors that use Sax, a DOM or both?
>> Considering the above paragrraph, will Sax do the things mentioned
>> there?
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 01:46:31PM -0800, John Gardner wrote:
>>> Laura, I wrote the original specification with the clear hope that the
> user
>>> would be required to do as little structure manipulation as possible.
> As
>>> much as feasible, BB should appear like a WYSIWYG editor. BB has the
> DAISY
>>> tag set but is not restricted to any of the DAISY structural
> requirements.
>>> BB can operate on a fully valid DAISY file, but it cannot really create
> one.
>>>
>>> At least that is what I think BB should be if it is to be useable by
> novices
>>> as well as experts.
>>>
>>> John G
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
>>> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:32 PM
>>> To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [brailleblaster] some considerations
>>>
>>> Hi all -- I've been reading the various pages on parsers and tika and
> sax vs
>>>
>>> dom4j and I am wondering what will be the nature of the editing that
> braille
>>>
>>> blaster will support?
>>> Will the end user have an understanding of DAISY, and expect to
> manipulate
>>> objects and subtrees in the document's structure? or will he/she just
> see a
>>> rendered document like Word and not know or care about underlying
> objects?
>>> I'm still just throwing the question out there for discussion. I have
> been
>>> working on tika patches, thinking tika might be what is needed, but it
> of
>>> course tika uses sax rather than dom4j.
>>> However, some editors apparently use both sax events and dom.
>>>
>>> Just trying to stir up some discussion. Comments welcome.
>>> --le
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
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>
>
>
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