There is a mailing list that may be of interest to those of us who are still learning Java. It is program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx I'm hoping someone on there can tell me how to get the liblouisutdml bindings to find the library. To subscribe, send a message to program-java-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and put subscribe in the subject line. John B. -- John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer Abilitiessoft, Inc. http://www.abilitiessoft.com Madison, Wisconsin USA Developing software for people with disabilities