[brailleblaster] Re: BrailleBlaster GUI (was: Sluggishness in file open and save as dialogs)
- From: François Ouellette <braille@xxxxxxx>
- To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 11:43:24 -0400
John: I am indeed more than interested. I also get tips from my girlfriend
who is an experienced user of software like DBT and knows Braille well. I
will put together a list of the menu items that could be reviewed or
adjusted. In the meantime I created a properties file for Canadian English
using the locale en_CA from the default properties file so I can develop
and test the menus without changing anything to the existing properties
files. I will follow up with my findings and suggestions.
Thanks.
François
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 10:20 AM, John J. Boyer <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> wrote:
> Hi Francois,
>
> I'm glad to see you so interested. We need all the help we can get.
> Perhaps you would like to discuss which menu items seem unnecessary.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 09:42:14AM -0400, Fran�ois Ouellette wrote:
> > There seems to be many little things to fix in the menus. There are
> several
> > conflicts for the hot key settings in the properties file, for one. This
> > means we have to correct the properties files. Also there seems to be
> many
> > menu items that could be eliminated or simplified. Another issue is that
> > currently most notification messages are hard-coded in the methods, which
> > is wrong, they should be in the properties files in order to get
> displayed
> > in the local language.
> >
> > In order to get familiar with the existing classes and interface I have
> > enhanced a few functions already including the viewing of the translated
> > braille with the SimBraille font and changing the font sizes. These will
> > come handy for users with little or no visual impairment.
> >
> > I am now attacking the menu items that have to do with file handling
> > features.
> >
> > F.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Vic Beckley <vic.beckley3@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Another small thing that I would like added would be the standard
> > > accelerator keys such as Control-O, Control-N and Control-S We can all
> > > discuss what additional ones we might want to add for BB but I think
> > > Control-E to emboss now and control-T to translate. I know this is
> minor
> > > but if it is easy why not add them.****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Best regards from Ohio, U.S.A.,****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Vic****
> > >
> > > E-mail: vic.beckley3@xxxxxxxxx****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > *From:* brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> > > brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *François Ouellette
> > > *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2012 8:50 AM
> > > *To:* brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > *Subject:* [brailleblaster] Re: Sluggishness in file open ans save as
> > > dialogs****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Incidentally I have been looking at the GUI yesterday and there seems
> to
> > > be lots of things to do in that area. Most menu items are yet to be
> > > implemented, and the word processing functions are a bit elementary.
> > >
> > > John: I can sure look at the file open dialog and other things in BB.
> I am
> > > using 64-bit Vista and Windows 7 systems.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > François****
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Vic Beckley <vic.beckley3@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:****
> > >
> > > Michael,
> > >
> > > Yes, it is the standard Windows dialog and yes, it is just in
> > > BrailleBlaster. The dialog works just fine everywhere else.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards from Ohio, U.S.A.,
> > >
> > > Vic
> > > E-mail: vic.beckley3@xxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael
> Whapples
> > > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:55 AM
> > > To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: Sluggishness in file open ans save as
> dialogs
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > As far as I understand SWT uses standard windows common dialog boxes
> > > (the standard open/save/print, etc), these dialogs do differ between
> > > Windows XP and Windows7, eg. I have office 2003 here and observe the
> > > difference in open/save dialogs even with office. When I am saying
> > > differences I mean different layouts.
> > >
> > > Is it just BrailleBlaster which is impacted by being slow in open
> dialogs?
> > >
> > > Michael Whapples
> > > On 29/06/2012 12:46, Vic Beckley wrote:
> > > > Francois,
> > > >
> > > > We have had a problem with the file open and save dialogs in BB ever
> > > since
> > > I
> > > > have been involved with the project. With a screen reader running,
> the
> > > > dialog gets very, very sluggish. Sometimes I have to wait up to 5
> seconds
> > > > before the focus change is spoken. It seems worst in the list of
> files. I
> > > > don't see this under 32-bit XP. Where I do see it consistently is
> under
> > > > 64-bit win7. The dialogs are completely different between the two. I
> > > don't
> > > > know if there could be a problem in how the dialogs are being called
> or
> > > what
> > > > might be going on. We have been looking for an experienced Windows
> > > > programmer to look at this for a while. I haven't heard that John
> has had
> > > > anyone look at this yet. It happens both with Window-Eyes and NVDA.
> You
> > > can
> > > > download a demo of Window-Eyes from www.gwmicro.com and you can get
> NVDA
> > > > from www.nvda-project.org/ .
> > > >
> > > > John, would it be OK if he looked at this? Are you still seeing this
> with
> > > > JAWS?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best regards from Ohio, U.S.A.,
> > > >
> > > > Vic
> > > > E-mail: vic.beckley3@xxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
>
> --
> John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer
> Abilitiessoft, Inc.
> http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> Madison, Wisconsin USA
> Developing software for people with disabilities
>
>
>
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