[bookshare-discuss] Validating books
- From: James Nuttall <jnuttallphd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:11:25 -0700 (PDT)
What exactly is the purpose of validating books? Some have written on the
forum that they would like those who scan a book to proofread the book. I can
understand especially for Braille users the need for accuracy.
However my question is, "if the person doing scanning also does the
proofreading why can't we skip the validation step?"
Jim -- Michigan
talmage@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hi Paul,
I couldn't really say when 2 page mode became a standard feature in
Openbook or Kurzweil, as I took a hiatus from Openbook between versions 2
and 6. I must admit that I've never used anymore than a demo of the
Kurzweil software line, but I started out with the Openbook products back
when they were Arkanstone Reader and had the full sized ISA card. Back
then it was great, Arkanstone would send updates to the software end of the
system at frequent intervals, and at no charge. When they moved over to
the software only system with Openbook, I only went as far as V2 (not sure
which minor version was my last), and then got tired of shelling out what I
consider significant amounts of cash for updates. When I wanted improved
OCR after that, I went to the online auctions and picked up inexpensive
copies of Textbridge and Omnipage. One of the problems with the version of
Textbridge 98 was it didn't have a 2 page mode only a multiple column mode,
which resulted in scans like those that started this thread. The scans
could be of high quality, you just had to put up with 1 long page rather
than 2. A year or so ago, I finally moved back to Openbook
V6. Unfortunately, with V7, there were no new features that I could see
that would justify my upgrading, so probably when they improve it enough
with V8 or 9 it will be a costly upgrade again.
Dave
At 09:59 PM 8/22/2004, you wrote:
>Hi, Dave. You are probably right about that. I just thought that two page
>mode had been around for years. I used to scan in one page mode, but I
>think that was back in the early days of K1000 when it didn't have a two
>page mode. I don't remember when openbook added two page mode. I stopped
>using it when it was 2.2U.
>eAt 8/22/2004, you wrote:
>
> >Hi Paul,
> >
> >I think you may have missed the beginning of this thread, but the books in
> >question are old scans Cindy has in her collection.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >At 01:47 AM 8/22/2004, you wrote:
> > >Hi. Why can't you scan them in two page mode? With today's scanning
> > >programs, that shouldn't be a problem.
> > >It also bothers me that people are scanning and submitting books without
> > >even bothering to proofread what they scan. The volunteers don't have time
> > >to proofread each and everypage. Doesn't submitting books in this fashion
> > >just create more garbage on bookshare?
> > >But there should be no reason for books that are not paginated properly.
> > >K1000 does it and I assume openbook does the same.
> > >At 8/20/2004, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >Cindy,
> > > >
> > > >You can submit them! Just a few of the validators are a bit
> stickler for
> > > >perfection. Messed up pagination is not a legal reason for rejection!
> > > >
> > > >There are only five things a bookshare book needs.
> > > >
> > > >Title
> > > >Author
> > > >Copyright date and holder
> > > >All pages or at least 99.9 percent of them,
> > > >
> > > >And the text be readable.
> > > >
> > > >The rest is perfection on the part of the validator, and if they reject
> > > >perfectly legidment submissions then... they need to reconsider not
> > > >validating that kind of material in the next time.
> > > >
> > > >Excellence is good, this book that you are submitting is devoid of other
> > > >errors as you fixed them, so their "excellent text quality is
> there. Just
> > > >not the pages.
> > > >
> > > >Submit them! And someone will appreciate them!
> > > >
> > > >Perfection is o.k., but obsessing on it is not.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden
> > > >juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
> > > >Graduate Advisory Council
> > > >www.guidedogs.com
> > > >
> > > >The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to
> > > >stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs.
> > > >
> > > > -- Vance Havner
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