[bookshare-discuss] Re: Question About OpenBook and Hard Returns

  • From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 22:53:32 -0600

Hi Evan,
    You might try toggling the Recognize columns recognition setting. Generally 
you want this enabled unless scanning something like a table of contents.

Let me know if this is the culpret, if not I'll dig out my laptop and fire up a 
copy of OB and see if I can find any other setting that might apply.

HTH,
Jake
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Evan Reese 
  To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 10:13 PM
  Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Question About OpenBook and Hard Returns


  I just finished a book, and while I was reading through it on my Braille 
displayI noticed that I was getting many short lines.  My Braille display fills 
up, then the remainder of the print line is carried over to the next partial 
Braille line.  It seems that in .rtf format, not only does OpenBook put a blank 
line between each paragraph - two hard returns - but it also seems to put one 
at the end of each line of print.  Also, after a hyphenated word at the end of 
a line, it puts a hard return, so you get a hard return and a space where the 
hyphenated word ends on the next line.  I've looked through all the settings in 
OpenBook and haven't found anything that will change what it does at the end of 
a line, and this problem with hyphenation just seems to be a bug.  I didn't 
notice this before because it doesn't seem to happen in standard .txt format - 
although there is an option for text with line breaks which may do the same 
thing.  I haven't used that, though.

  I was able to fix these hard return space goofs easily enough, and in future 
books I can do a couple search-and-replace operations to strip out the hard 
returns from the ends of lines, leaving only those at the ends of paragraphs 
and in other obvious places.  But in the book I just finished, I pulled many of 
them out by hand so the Braille lines would look better, at least on my 
display; although I'm sure I missed many if the line wasn't really short.  What 
will the Braille translator do with this?  The only way to be sure of getting 
them all out is to go through the book line by line, something I have no desire 
to do.  Or, I could just leave them in in future scans.  For speech readers 
reading continuously, of course, this is of no importance, but for Braille 
readers it may look pretty horrible since the length of the Braille display 
probably won't agree with whatever margins I set - since they aren't all the 
same - and grade two translation also has an effect on line length.  Besides, 
setting shorter margins will just create half-empty lines in the original .rtf 
file, and setting wider margins will do nothing.

  I need advice from Braille readers out there and those who know about 
Bookshare's Braille translator, or from anyone who knows how to fix this 
problem in OpenBook - assuming it should be fixed.  That's one of the things I 
need to know.

  Thanks for any help anyone has to offer.


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