[bookshare-discuss] OT: Pratik and guido
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 15:17:52 -0800 (PST)
It's nice to hear from you. I hope you get over your
cold soon.
If you are in contact with Guido, tell him that we
miss him, too and say hello from us.
Cindy
--- Pratik patel <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Kellie,
>
> I've found that learning is often a matter of
> transliterating when
> necessary. If you're able to comprehend large
> pieces of music and remember
> them, there may be hope for you yet. Visualization
> is often over-rated.
> Learning and comprehension methods can be
> transferedd from one medium to
> another if one can find a willing imagination in the
> teacher. Take chess,
> for example: You can view the chess board as a
> musical scale. Combine
> multiple instruments, multiple scales, or
> differentiate pieces and their
> moves by notes from different octives. you can
> learn chess as easily as
> someone who is a visual lerner. You only have to
> get used to the learning
> style and may even need to create your own. I can
> volunteer to teach you
> chess and its strategies in terms of music.
>
> I have a cold too but don't think I'm wasting my
> time.
>
> Pratik
>
> _____
>
> From: Kellie Hartmann [mailto:hart0421@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:14 PM
> To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: about the optacan
>
>
> I'm really amazed by people's ability to look at a
> diagram using an opticon
> one piece at a time and mentally synthesize it. I've
> never been able to look
> at something in pieces and imagine the whole. This
> inability sometimes
> hampers my Scrabble playing. Incidentally, I was
> born totally blind. I won't
> even let anyone teach me chess because I know that
> my inability to imagine
> the board and the consequences of future moves would
> make me a terrible
> player, and who wants to learn a game just so they
> can lose? <lol>
>
> I do know one totally sighted person who says she
> can't visualize anything
> in her head. I think it's a worse handicap when
> you're blind though because
> if you're sighted you can actually look at
> something, such as a chessboard
> or diagram, all in one piece instead of trying to
> take it in one little bit
> at a time.
>
> I am completely hopeless at looking at tactile 2/-d
> drawings and
> understanding how they would be in 3-d. It was a big
> problem in middle
> school math. I also can't make mental maps, although
> I can use tactile ones
> meaningfully. I like tactile tables and bar graphs,
> but more complicated
> representations are completely incomprehensible to
> me. I can't even
> visualize a simple object in my mind and think at
> the same time. <lol> I've
> come to the conclusion that this ability, or lack
> there of as the case may
> be, isn't necessarily related to how much vision the
> person has, although it
> seems from discussions on the subject that having
> more vision or having had
> more vision even in early life does help.
>
> On the other hand, I can hear music in my mind in
> great detail, either
> things I've heard before or things I mentally
> compose myself. I thought that
> everyone could do this, until a really interesting
> discussion I had with a
> group of people on the subject. One of the people
> definitely has much
> greater musical ability than me, but he says that
> when he hears music in his
> mind it's basically the sound of himself humming and
> that's all. I've heard
> one piece that he composed, and it was incredibly
> complex--I really wonder
> how he can do that.
>
> Okay, enough of my ranting--I have a cold and am
> just sitting here at the
> computer trying to distract myself.
> Kellie
>
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