[bookshare-discuss] Re: FW: [bksvol-discuss] My nickel's worth--quality control
- From: "James Bond" <wildblinker007@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 21:41:01 -0800
I'm just *that gtood.*
Seriously though, most of it is legible enough so that you can get most of
what is going on. It just looks really bad, and there are some places where
I genuinly don't know what happened for some scenes. So.
_____
Why settle for the lesser evil? Cthulhu for president!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Mackowiak" <gmackowiak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 7:48 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: FW: [bksvol-discuss] My nickel's
worth--quality control
> I am curious too. How do you know it is so good, if your scan is so bad?
> (grin)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Bond" <wildblinker007@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 5:47 PM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: FW: [bksvol-discuss] My nickel's
> worth--quality control
>
>
> > Ready, okay! by Adam Cadre.
> >
> > _____
> >
> > Why settle for the lesser evil? Cthulhu for president!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "CJ Vining" <GrayRainbows@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:47 PM
> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: FW: [bksvol-discuss] My nickel's
> > worth--quality control
> >
> >
> > > And what is this amazing book? Curiosity is killing me!
> > >
> > > Joanie
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "James Bond"
> > > > I have to agree. I have scanned a grand total of one book. I would
> like
> > to
> > > > add that this book is quite possibly one of the greatest and most
> > > overlooked
> > > > books that I have ever read in my entire life. But I cannot, and
will
> > not
> > > > submit it to bookshare, for the simple reason that the quality is
not
> > just
> > > > bad, but is in fact actively embarrassing. Whole pages are reduced
to
> > > > braces, "s and other garbage characters. I cannot find a single page
> > that
> > > > does not have at least one error. Going trough and fixing even close
> to
> > > all
> > > > of them would be not only tedious, but also may be impossible as I
> need
> > to
> > > > know what it was actually trying to say before I can fix it. If I am
> > ever
> > > > going to even think of submiting it to bookshare--and i am, as it is
> > truly
> > > a
> > > > wonderful book that is hard to find for *anyone*, let alone a blind
> > > > person--than I will simply re-scan it with my new scanner and new
Open
> > > Book
> > > > program, and make sure that each page is relatively error-free
before
> > > > continuing. Its find to have a whole bunch of books in your
> collection,
> > > but
> > > > when most of them have portions that are wholly ilegible, the point
> > > becomes
> > > > rather moot. I have seen at least one book--The Outsiders, by S.E.
> > > > Hinton--where whole pages were excised--for no reason that I can
tell,
> > > I've
> > > > seen five pages at a time just not included in the text. Even two
> pages
> > of
> > > > missing text can--and was--crippling to my understanding of the
book,
> as
> > > it
> > > > skipped over several key plot points. This just cannot go on.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Liz Halperin" <lizzers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: "Bookshare" <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:21 PM
> > > > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] FW: [bksvol-discuss] My nickel's
> > > worth--quality
> > > > control
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Ok, I suspect I may get bashed, but here goes anyway:
> > > > >
> > > > > I wish everyone would just SLOW DOWN. There seems to be this
frenzy
> to
> > > > > get books into the collection, and less care on their quality. As
a
> > > > > braille reader, I know I am in the minority, but my patience for
> > sloppy
> > > > > books is low.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I scan a book I am very careful to send a clean copy up. I
> don't
> > > > > expect the validator to have to do much of anything except make
sure
> > no
> > > > > corruption of the file has occurred. I am proud of quality over
> > > > > quantity.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been doing some validating and there have been a few books
> > > > > equally clean as those I submit. They are a joy to validate. Most
> have
> > > > > problems. I fix what I can. Books are submitted without the ISBN
> > listed
> > > > > (even though it's right there), sections missing, whole messed up
> > pages.
> > > > > When I am faced with many blank pages and then text pages run
> together
> > > > > and too many spelling errors and character errors, I feel no guilt
> to
> > > > > reject the book. It's not worth spending so many hours on. Better
to
> > get
> > > > > it rescanned in a better version. When I finally validate
something,
> > > > > it's clean and ready to go. Any problems after that are from the
> > > > > Bookshare conversion processes.
> > > > >
> > > > > With over 500 books waiting for validation, I wish there would be
a
> > > > > moratorium on scanning submissions. When there was too much
backlog
> at
> > > > > the Bookshare end, they made a concerted effort to get caught up.
> It's
> > > > > now OUR end that needs the effort, the volunteers.
> > > > >
> > > > > The two lists, books-volunteer-discuss and books-discuss, are very
> > very
> > > > > busy. What if all the time spent reading and writing on the lists
> was
> > > > > spent on validating, for awhile, at least?
> > > > >
> > > > > What if scanners made an effort to send up better quality? What if
> > > > > validators had better quality to start with and so could approve
> > faster
> > > > > and cleaner? What if we humans went beyond spellcheck and made
sure
> > that
> > > > > other errors were caught? Errors such as "form" for "from" and
"end"
> > for
> > > > > "and" and stuff like that? What if we went for quality over
> quantity
> > > > > for awhile?
> > > > >
> > > > > Liz in Seattle
> > > > >
> > > > > Liz Halperin
> > > > > Seattle, WA
> > > > > lizzers@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >
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