I am curious too. How do you know it is so good, if your scan is so bad? (grin) ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bond" <wildblinker007@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 5:47 PM Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: FW: [bksvol-discuss] My nickel's worth--quality control > Ready, okay! by Adam Cadre. > > _____ > > Why settle for the lesser evil? Cthulhu for president! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "CJ Vining" <GrayRainbows@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:47 PM > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: FW: [bksvol-discuss] My nickel's > worth--quality control > > > > And what is this amazing book? Curiosity is killing me! > > > > Joanie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "James Bond" > > > I have to agree. I have scanned a grand total of one book. I would like > to > > > add that this book is quite possibly one of the greatest and most > > overlooked > > > books that I have ever read in my entire life. But I cannot, and will > not > > > submit it to bookshare, for the simple reason that the quality is not > just > > > bad, but is in fact actively embarrassing. Whole pages are reduced to > > > braces, "s and other garbage characters. I cannot find a single page > that > > > does not have at least one error. Going trough and fixing even close to > > all > > > of them would be not only tedious, but also may be impossible as I need > to > > > know what it was actually trying to say before I can fix it. If I am > ever > > > going to even think of submiting it to bookshare--and i am, as it is > truly > > a > > > wonderful book that is hard to find for *anyone*, let alone a blind > > > person--than I will simply re-scan it with my new scanner and new Open > > Book > > > program, and make sure that each page is relatively error-free before > > > continuing. Its find to have a whole bunch of books in your collection, > > but > > > when most of them have portions that are wholly ilegible, the point > > becomes > > > rather moot. I have seen at least one book--The Outsiders, by S.E. > > > Hinton--where whole pages were excised--for no reason that I can tell, > > I've > > > seen five pages at a time just not included in the text. Even two pages > of > > > missing text can--and was--crippling to my understanding of the book, as > > it > > > skipped over several key plot points. This just cannot go on. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Liz Halperin" <lizzers@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: "Bookshare" <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:21 PM > > > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] FW: [bksvol-discuss] My nickel's > > worth--quality > > > control > > > > > > > > > > Ok, I suspect I may get bashed, but here goes anyway: > > > > > > > > I wish everyone would just SLOW DOWN. There seems to be this frenzy to > > > > get books into the collection, and less care on their quality. As a > > > > braille reader, I know I am in the minority, but my patience for > sloppy > > > > books is low. > > > > > > > > When I scan a book I am very careful to send a clean copy up. I don't > > > > expect the validator to have to do much of anything except make sure > no > > > > corruption of the file has occurred. I am proud of quality over > > > > quantity. > > > > > > > > I have been doing some validating and there have been a few books > > > > equally clean as those I submit. They are a joy to validate. Most have > > > > problems. I fix what I can. Books are submitted without the ISBN > listed > > > > (even though it's right there), sections missing, whole messed up > pages. > > > > When I am faced with many blank pages and then text pages run together > > > > and too many spelling errors and character errors, I feel no guilt to > > > > reject the book. It's not worth spending so many hours on. Better to > get > > > > it rescanned in a better version. When I finally validate something, > > > > it's clean and ready to go. Any problems after that are from the > > > > Bookshare conversion processes. > > > > > > > > With over 500 books waiting for validation, I wish there would be a > > > > moratorium on scanning submissions. When there was too much backlog at > > > > the Bookshare end, they made a concerted effort to get caught up. It's > > > > now OUR end that needs the effort, the volunteers. > > > > > > > > The two lists, books-volunteer-discuss and books-discuss, are very > very > > > > busy. What if all the time spent reading and writing on the lists was > > > > spent on validating, for awhile, at least? > > > > > > > > What if scanners made an effort to send up better quality? What if > > > > validators had better quality to start with and so could approve > faster > > > > and cleaner? What if we humans went beyond spellcheck and made sure > that > > > > other errors were caught? Errors such as "form" for "from" and "end" > for > > > > "and" and stuff like that? What if we went for quality over quantity > > > > for awhile? > > > > > > > > Liz in Seattle > > > > > > > > Liz Halperin > > > > Seattle, WA > > > > lizzers@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >